The Abusive cult NEW APOSTOLIC REFORMATION LATTER DAY RAIN CULT Home Church called " Church Of Strawberry, Arizona" aka Agape Harvest Church- DAN AND SHARLENE CLARK
facebook acct https://www.facebook.com/Church-Of-Strawberry-Arizona-253076361385937/?fref=ts
and here -> http://www.churchofstrawberryarizona.com/
I
and 5 others who left their Cult have Witnessed VERY Bad Fruit in Their
Walk hands on, They Say YOU are NOT Allowed to Open Your BIBLE During
Their Meetings to Test all Things to Scripture,
THEY TOLD BROTHER
JOSE ALL HIS CHRISTIAN PRAISE AND WORSHIP CD'S WERE OF THE DEVIL AND
THREW THEM IN THE TRASH, THEY SAID JOSE'S STAFF CANE WAS OF THE DEVIL
THEY BROKE IT IN FRONT OF US ALL AND THREW IT IN THE TRASH, THEY SAID MY
CROSS NECKLACE WAS A IDOL MY MOM BOUGHT ME YEARS AGO AND IT WAS OF THE
DEVIL AND THEY HOUNDED ME FOR HOURS , SO I THREW IT IN THE TRASH TO GET
THEM OFF MY BACK(TALK ABOUT CONTROL FREAKS) =CULT
THEY LAUGHED AT
BROTHER JOSE WHEN HIM AND HIS ENGAGED GIRLFRIEND BROKE UP CAUSE SHE KNEW
THAT DAN AND SHARLENE WERE A CULT, CONTROLING, AND ABUSIVE , SHARLENE
TOLF BROTHER JOSE SHE LIKE TO MAKE CHRISTIANS ANGRY, PRAY CURSES ON THEM
TO STIR THE DEMONS UP ?? HELLO THAT AT THE HOLY SPIRIT AT ALL, WHEN I
SEEN THE ABUSE ,FALSE TEACHINGS, SEDUCING SPIRITS IN THIS CULT I FIRST
CONFRONTED DAN AND SHARLENE IN A PVT MEETING, THEY GOT ANGRY TOLD ME TO
LEAVE , I TALKED TO STEVE AND BOB THEIR ELDERS AND THEY WANTED NOTHING
TO DO WITH CONFRONTING THEM, I WENT TO LOCAL PASTORS WITH ALL THE FALSE
TEACHINGS AND ABUSE CULT REPORTS AND SHOWED IT TO THEM TO GET 2 OR 3
WITNESSES TO GO WITH ME TO CONFRONT THEM AT AGAPE HARVEST HOME CULT
CHURCH , PASTORS SAID I WAS VERY RIGHT ON THEM BEING A CULT BUT THEY
WHIMPED OUT TOO AND SAID NO WE DO NOT WANTA CONFRONT AS SCRIPTURE SAYS
TO, SO THEN I WROTE THIS AND PUT IT ON INTERNET AS A WATCHMAN WARNING TO
THE BODY OF CHRIST , THEN SCOTT LEFT THE CULT AFTER MY WARNINGS, JOSE
LEFT, KATHY LEFT, THE ELDERS ALL LEFT , EVERYONE LEFT EXCEPT WOLF MANNY ,
JOSE I HELPED GET A RV HERE IN PARK TO HELP HIM GET RESTORED AND FREE
FROM THOSE WICKED PEOPLE, THEN SHARLENE AND DAN CAME ON OUR RV PARK
PROPERTY MANY TIMES WITH EVIL CONDEMNATION NOTES GOD IS GONNA KILL YOU,
DESTROY YOU FOR LEAVING OUR GROUP, SHARLENE A JEZEBEL KEPT STALKING ALL
OF US WITH DRIVE BY'S, WALK BY'S PRAYING CURSES OVER US ALL, THEN
SHARLENE AND DAN WOULD PARK THEIR SUV DANGRO RIGHT BEHIND MY MOTORHOME
AND STARE AT US ALL OUTSIDE FELLOWSHIPPING AND CURSE US , NOT COMING OUT
OF THEIR SUV BUT JUST EVIL EYE US, THEN DRIVE AWAY, THIS HAPPENED ALL
SUMMER, I REPORTED IT TO NATHAN LEAL FROM WATCHMANS CRY FOR HELP CAUSE
THIS CULT WAS A MEMBER ON THAT FORUM AS I WAS TOO, ND NATHAN DID NOT
BELIEVE ME, SAID I WAS CRAZY , JUST GREAT TRYING TO GET HELP FROM WHOM I
THOUGHT WAS A SEASONED ELDER WATCHMAN , BUT HE WAS VERY CARNAL AND
UNDISCERNING ,AND RUDE AND UNCARING IN THE MATTER , BAD FRUIT, 2 YEARS
LATER SHARLENE WROTE MANY FALSE REPORTS OF LIES AND SLANDER ABOUT ME TO
GET ME BACK IN REVENAGE AND SHE GATHERED TO BRAIN WASHED CULT MEMBERS
SHE TRANSFERED DEMONS ON WITH HER JEZEBEL WITCHCRAFT FALSE DELIVERENCE
MINISTRY , AND THEY AT HER COMMAND PROMOTES DID A LYING SKYPE REPORT OF
SLANDER AGAINST ME,SHE GATHERED MANY PAK OF WOLVES TO ATTACK ME,
I GOT A RESTRAINING ORDER AGAINST THIS EVIL JEZEBEL WOMAN , AND IT STOPPED , PRAISE JESUS ,
brother
Scott is doing Awesome a Onfire fulltime missionary in Keyna , Jose is
doing good Loves the Lord Jesus and is a onfire Evangelist, others who
left are recovering the Abuse and false teaching brain washing.
THIS
CULT OF DAN AND SHARLENE CLARK HAVE BROKE UP 3 TIMES BEFORE I WAS
TRICKED INTO MOVING HERE FROM OREGON by DEE SMITH and The Clarks,(so
they can't blame me) AND THIS CULT HAS ABUSED AND HURT MANY GOD LOVING
SAINTS OF GOD, THATS WHY I WROTE THIS TO WARN MY BELOVED BRETHREN SO
THEY DO NOT COME HERE TO BE DECEIVED AND HURT BY THESE DEMONIZED N.A.R.
LATTER DAY RAIN CULT !
They Say if you do check
out to scripture or test the spirits You Have a Religious Spirit DEMON
INSIDE YOU,His wife Teaches men and Controlling and Demands Everyone
Christian has Demons inside them,Scripture says:
1Tim 2:11 Let a woman learn in silence with all submission.
1Ti 2:12 And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.
1Ti 2:13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve.
1Ti 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.
1Ti 2:15 Nevertheless she will be saved in childbearing if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control
and
You are just to Let The So Called Pastor Speak ,and do all the Speaking
in this Home Church on what ever A Spirit Spoke to Him No Matter if it
Lines up with Scripture or Not, He is in Charge, and He talks right over
you, no one is allowed to TEST THE SPIRITS to see if That Writing Came
from God or a Counterfeit DEMON LYING acting Like He is God, The
Scripture says
1Jo 4:1Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but
test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets
have gone out into the world.
Many of His-> Thus Saith Lord
Writings of Lies and Condemnation to The Saints, and False Teachings
That Go against WRITTEN SCRIPTURE ,
2Pe 1:20knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation,
2Pe 1:21for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God [fn] spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
Hbr
4:12 For the word of God is full of living power. It is sharper than
the sharpest knife, cutting deep into our innermost thoughts and
desires. It exposes us for what we really are.
Hbr 4:13
Nothing in all creation can hide from him. Everything is naked and
exposed before his eyes. This is the God to whom we must explain all
that we have done.
1Cr 14:33For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.
Jam 3:16For where envy and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing are there.
Jer 14:14And the LORD said to me, "The prophets prophesy lies in My name.
I
have not sent them, commanded them, nor spoken to them; they prophesy
to you a false vision, divination, a worthless thing, and the deceit of
their heart.
Lam 2:14Your prophets have seen for you False and
deceptive visions; They have not uncovered your iniquity, To bring back
your captives, But have envisioned for you false prophecies and
delusions.
Eze 22:28
Her prophets plastered them with
untempered [mortar], seeing false visions, and divining lies for them,
saying, 'Thus says the Lord GOD,' when the LORD had not spoken.
GOD NEVER GOES AGAINST HIS WORD HE WROTE THROUGH HIS PROPHETS of OLD THE 66 Books of The BIBLE !
This
man has told me over and over he does NOT KNOW Scripture, can't
Remember any Scripture at all, BUT THE BIBLE Say's even for us Bad
memory Folk, if indeed you HAVE The HOLY Spirit,??????
Jhn
14:26But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will
send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to
your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Jhn 15:26But
when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father,
[even] the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall
testify of me:
This Group is SO Obsessed with EVERYTHING is a
DEMON's Fault, Including EVERY CHRISTIAN They Believe has Demons inside
Them With The Holy Spirit TOO ! This is a Lie, MAN Has a Will to Say
YES or NO to SIN its Not a DEMONS FAULT YOU FELL YOU Gave in to Sin,
Jam
1:12Blessed is the man who endures temptation; for when he has been
approved, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised
to those who love Him.
Jam 1:13Let no one say when he is tempted,
"I am tempted by God"; for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He
Himself tempt anyone.
Jam 1:14But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed.
Jam 1:15Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death.
Jam 1:16Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren.
SO ENOUGH OF THIS LAME EXCUSE THE DEVIL MADE ME DO IT DOCTRINE,
HE DID NOT, CAUSE JESUS DISARMED HIM AT THE CROSS
Col
2:8Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit,
according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of
the world, and not according to Christ.
Col 2:9For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;
Col 2:10and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power.
Col
2:11In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without
hands, by putting off the body of the sins [fn] of the flesh, by the
circumcision of Christ,
Col 2:12buried with Him in baptism, in
which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God,
who raised Him from the dead.
Col 2:13And you, being dead in your
trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive
together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses,
Col
2:14having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against
us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having
nailed it to the cross.
Col 2:15Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.
Col 2:16So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths,
Col 2:17which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.
Col
2:18Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false
humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has
not [fn] seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
Col 2:19and
not holding fast to the Head, from whom all the body, nourished and knit
together by joints and ligaments, grows with the increase that is from
God.
One of Their Members Manny Fake elder lives down The Street, and sticks His
Nose in the Air at us when He Speeds by Our Trailer Park , One Night
while I was walking my Dog down the Street This Same man Almost ran me
and my Dog over After He Ran The Stop Sign Speeding "IS THIS THE FRUIT
OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD ?" RUNNING OVER A BROTHER, (Read Gal. Chapter)
And.( 1Cor Chapter 13) And
(Eph. Chapter 5 The Fruit of The REAL SPIRIT "
THIS
GROUP APPROVES OF SEXUAL Immorality and They SAY I am NOT TO JUDGE a
BROTHER Living a Double Life ,LOOK at What 1 Cor. Chapter 5 The Whole
Chapter To Judge The House of God, and this kinda sins Brings Coruption
to The Whole Church, The Whole Chapter Instructs us to deal with This
Wicked Person, in Vs. 1Cr 5:11 But now I have written to you not to keep
company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or
covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an
extortioner— not even to eat with such a person.
1Cr 5:12 For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside?
1Cr 5:13 But those who are outside God judges. Therefore "put away from yourselves the evil person."
This
CULT Condemed me for telling this to the Group this man here in Town is
Sleeping around from woman to woman ,Drinking at Bars, Partying, 5 or
more Christians Brothers confronted Him and He Fought with Everyone of
them, so Scripture says after taking a Witness TELL IT TO THE CHURCH ,
Mat
18:15 "Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his
fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your
brother.
Mat 18:16 "But if he will not hear, take with you one or
two more, that 'by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be
established.'
Mat 18:17 "And if he refuses to hear them, tell it
to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to
you like a heathen and a tax collector.
YET THEY STILL ACCEPT HIM in THEIR GROUP THIS WICKED MAN ! BAD FRUIT ! BAD LEADERSHIP !
,
This Wicked Cult Actualy Seen with their OWN Eyes This Spirit of Lust
on this Guy working THAT VERY NIGHT YET They Condemmed me for Speaking
out as a Watchman Warning of a WOLF Among Them ! The BAD TREE BAD FRUIT
is SO EVIDENT in THIS CULT !
The Leaders there Like to Go around
Stalking Christians here to see if they can TEASE The Demons They THINK
are inside Christan's, They Drive to Christians House's and Park and
Stalk them at the Saints House's, They Use to Drive by us Everyday and
Watch us when several brothers worked for The Park Manager here in RV
Park This was Stalking us too, and Watch them and then drive off, They
Leave Nasty CONDEMNING NOTES on Christians Doors with sayings Like GOD
is Gonna Banish you, She JEZEBEL Said your not suppose to get married,
She Laughed and When my brother's girlfriend He Hoped to marry That
Loves Jesus When they Broke up She This JEZEBEL Laughed at His Pain and
Loss, Is This The Fruit from a Good Tree or a Bad Tree ? A Wolf in
Sheep's Clothing They Say God Say's your Not suppose to Preach The
Gospel to unbelievers , You have to wait for this Double Portion
Anointing ,"The Latter Rain" So I Guess we Through Out The Commands
already given by Jesus and ACTS 1;8 The Power Given to be His witnesses,
and Mark 16;15,Go Preach The Gospel,Matt 28:30 Make Disciples .and if
you Give your Testimony of what Jesus has done in your Life as a Open
door to Share The Gospel They Call this Idolatry to share your
Testimony, This is some of The Worst Unbiblical Fruit I have seen in any
CULT , AUTHORITARIAN ABUSE, CONTROLLING, CONDEMNATION, ACCUSING THE
BRETHREN , They DON'T OBEY THE SCRIPTURES ,THEY Talk Behind Everyone's
Back including members on Other Forum Websites, They Think they are so
enlightened no matter what other Christan's have tried to show them
where there are in GREAT ERROR and Left The Faith,
TWO Prophets
and Spoke Correction to Them and told them to REPENT and RETURN to SOUND
DOCTRINE and to Get Accountability to by Other Elders in The Body of
Christ , They Call us Demon Possessed Lier's, They Blaspheme The Holy
Spirit inside every Christian Bought by The Blood of Jesus, call them
Demons,
Mat 10:25 It is enough for the disciple that he be as his
master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of
the house Beelzebub,(Which Means Prince of Demons) how much more [shall
they call] them of his household? (His Disciples)
Mat 10:26 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.
Mat
10:25 The student shares the teacher's fate. The servant shares the
master's fate. And since I, the master of the household, have been
called the prince of demons, [fn] how much more will it happen to you,
the members of the household!
BRETHREN This has to Be Exposed, I
Don't enjoy Exposing Cults But They are Lying,Deceiving Christan's, they
Sneak their way into Ministries and Lure them into their CULT, of Lies,
Their Website is Full of False Words from The Lord that Go against Scripture This is Their Website
Look for yourself at This False Prophets Writings http://www.agapeharvestchurch.com/
The Lord gave me a Dream The Other Day on Imposter's Among us, I Posted it here,
http://www.johnthebaptisttv.com/bbpress/topic/406
I
have witnessed JEZEBEL's ->HER Sharlene Clark a False preacher Witch SO called Mass Deliverance ministry
video Which is Blasphemy of The Holy Spirit inside a Spirit Filled
Christian,I seen HER Kiss DEMONS and She Says DEMONs Hate to be Kissed
,Where is This Scripturally ???????? This is HERSEY False
Teaching,DOCTRINES OF DEMONS TAUGHT BY JEZEBEL SPIRIT IS WHAT THE LORD
SHOWED ME !
Here is The Video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfU8hGGQgrA&feature=related
and this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXKlAc7U8Hc&feature=related
How
would you like to go to this Church for Building ,Exhorting The Saints ,
and Everyone is Spitting,Cussing, Swear words,throwing up,flipping all
over the pews, jumping, and Screaming, is This ORDER in The HOUSE of GOD
?
1Cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.
1Cor 14:40Let all things be done decently and in order.
This
is a HUGE LIE as Most of us Saints That a Rooted and GROUNDED in The
Word of God Know That LIGHT and Darkness Can't coexist in The SAME
Temple of GOD, We Have Been already Delivered When Jesus Came into us
The Temple of God, and The Holy Spirit SEALED us for The Day of
Redemption
Eph 4:30And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
Jhn 8:31Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, "If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed.
Jhn 8:32"And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."
Jhn 8:34Jesus answered them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin.
Jhn 8:35"And a slave does not abide in the house forever, but a son abides forever.
Jhn 8:36"Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed.
infact this is what Scripture says What Church Should Look Like
Order in Church Meetings 1 Cor. 14 26-33
26
How is it then, brethren? Whenever you come together, each of you has a
psalm, has a teaching, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an
interpretation. Let all things be done for edification. 27 If anyone
speaks in a tongue, let there be two or at the most three, each in turn,
and let one interpret. 28 But if there is no interpreter, let him keep
silent in church, and let him speak to himself and to God. 29 Let two or
three prophets speak, and let the others judge. 30 But if anything is
revealed to another who sits by, let the first keep silent. 31 For you
can all prophesy one by one, that all may learn and all may be
encouraged. 32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the
prophets. 33 For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in
all the churches of the saints.
I Didn't Enjoy Having to write
this AT ALL But Exposing Cults ,Wolves,False Prophets are The Job of a
WATCHMAN Too along With Dreams, Visions, words from The Lord, These
Groups Like This Agape Harvest Church Claiming to be "The Remnant" are
Lying,Deceiving Christians,Transferring Demons Onto Christians as I have
seen this with My own Eye's and Watched their walks fall apart, til
they get away from this Cult and God Straightens Them Out, This Group
they Sneak their way into Ministries and Lure them into their CULT, of
Lies, And I would Not Love God or my Brothers and Sister's Enough I f I
Knew The Truth about this group and KEPT Silent, Let Alone any
Christians that Get deceived in this Cult Their BLOOD would be upon my
Head !
SO I have Blown The Trumpet to the Precious Sheep of Jesus Christ Our Lord The Good Shepherd !
The Leaders there Like to Go around
Stocking Christians to see if they can TEASE The Demons They THINK are inside
Christan's, They Drive to Christians House's and Park and Stalk them at the
Saints House's and Watch them and then drive off,they provoke Christians to
anger ShaLrene says it stirs the Demons up inside Christians, the bible is clear
NOT to Provoke your brothers and sisters in Christ to wrath, SHE is EVIL and
against the BIBLE and JESUS , They Leave Nasty CONDEMNING NOTES on Christians
Doors with sayings Like GOD is Gonna Banish you, She Said your not suppose to
get married, She Laughed and When my brother Jose's girlfriend He Hoped to
marry That Loves Jesus When they Broke up She This JEZEBEL Laughed at His Pain
and Loss, Is This The Fruit from a Good Tree or a Bad Tree ? A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
They Say God Say's your Not suppose to Preach The Gospel to unbelievers , You
have to wait for this Double Portion anointing ,"The Latter Rain" So
I Guess we Through Out The Commands already given by Jesus and ACTS 1;8 The
Power Given to be His witnesses, and Mark 16;15,Go Preach The Gospel,Matt 28:30
Make Disciples .and if you Give your Testimony of what Jesus has done in your
Life as a Open door to Share The Gospel They Call this Idolatry to share your
Testimony, This is some of The Worst Unbiblical Fruit I have seen in any CULT ,
AUTHORITARIAN ABUSE, CONTROLLING, CONDEMNATION, ACCUSING THE BRETHREN ,THEY
Talk Behind Everyone's Back including members here on The Forum, They Think
they are so enlightened no matter what other Christan's have tried to show them
where there are in GREAT ERROR and Left The Faith,
TWO Prophets and Spoke Correction to Them and told them to REPENT
and RETURN to SOUND DOCTRINE and Get Accountability to Other Elders in The Body
of Christ , They Call us Demon Possessed Lier's, They Blaspheme The Holy Spirit
inside every Christian Bought by The Blood of Jesus, call them Demons, BRETHREN
This has to Be Exposed, I Don't Exposing Cults But They are Lying,Deceiving
Christan's, they Sneak their way into Ministries and Lure them into their CULT,
of Lies,
The Lord gave me a Dream The Other Day on These Imposter's I
Posted it here, http://www.watchmanscry.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11444
I have witnessed HER SO called Mass Deliverance ministry video
Which is Blasphemy of The Holy Spirit inside a Spirit Filled Christian,I seen
HER Kiss DEMONS and She Says DEMONs Hate to be Kissed ,Where is This
Scripturally ???????? This is HERSEY False Teaching,DOCTRINES OF DEMONS TAUGHT
BY JEZEBEL SPIRIT IS WHAT THE LORD SHOWED ME !
Here is The Video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfU8hGGQgrA&feature=related
and this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXKlAc7U8Hc&feature=related
How would you like to go to this Church for Building ,Exhorting
The Saints , and Everyone is Spitting,Cussing, Swear words,throwing up,flipping
all over the pews, jumping, and Screaming, is This ORDER in The HOUSE of GOD ?
1Cr 14:40Let all things be done decently and in order.
This is a HUGE LIE as Most of us Saints That a Rooted and GROUNDED
in The Word of God Know That LIGHT and Darkness Can't coexist in The SAME
Temple of GOD, We Have Been already Delivered When Jesus Came into us The
Temple of God, and The Holy Spirit SEALED us for The Day of Redemption
Eph 4:30And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed
for the day of redemption.
Jhn 8:31Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, "If you abide
in My word, you are My disciples indeed.
Jhn 8:32"And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you
free."
Jhn 8:34Jesus answered them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever
commits sin is a slave of sin.
Jhn 8:35"And a slave does not abide in the house forever, but a son
abides forever.
Jhn 8:36"Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free
indeed.
infact this is what Scripture says What Church Should Look Like
Order in Church Meetings 1 Cor. 14 26-33
26 How is it
then, brethren? Whenever you come together, each of you has a psalm, has a
teaching, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an interpretation. Let all things
be done for edification. 27 If anyone
speaks in a tongue, let there be two or at the most three, each
in turn, and let one interpret. 28 But if there
is no interpreter, let him keep silent in church, and let him speak to himself
and to God. 29 Let two or
three prophets speak, and let the others judge. 30 But if anything
is revealed to another who sits by, let the first keep silent. 31 For you can
all prophesy one by one, that all may learn and all may be encouraged. 32 And the spirits
of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33 For God is
not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the
saints.
I Didn't Enjoy Having to write this AT ALL But Exposing Cults
,Wolves,False Prophets are The Job of a WATCHMAN Too along With Dreams,
Visions, words from The Lord, These Groups Like This Agape Harvest Church
Claiming to be "The Remnant" are Lying,Deceiving
Christians,Transferring Demons Onto Christians as I have seen this with My own
Eye's and Watched their walks fall apart, til they get away from this Cult and
God Straightens The Out, This Group they Sneak their way into Ministries and
Lure them into their CULT, of Lies, And I would Not Love God or my Brothers and
sister's Enough I f I Knew The Truth about this group and KEPT Silent, Let
Alone any Christians that Get deceived in this Cult Their BLOOD would be upon
my Head !
SO I have Blown The Trumpet to the Precious Sheep of Jesus Christ
Our Lord The Good Shepherd !
TIME to EXPOSE THE CULT This Really Explains The Cult Down The
Street Agape Harvest Church Believes
NOTE:
This is NOT Slander, This Testimony from Eye Witnesses, My self Larry, Brother
Jose They kicked out, and , Kathy, Mike,Patrick Oneil Who visited this Cult a Gila Co.Sheriff Good Friend SEEN the EVIL and False Teachings and Jose's girlfriend Ester
,
and Scott Follmer,
This
This Really Explains The Latter Day Double Anointing Cult Down The Street Agape
Harvest Church Believes all This ,and they are on here The Forum I have
Witnessed VERY Bad Fruit in Their Walk hands on, They Say YOU are NOT Allowed
to Open Your BIBLE During Their Meetings to Test all Things to Scripture, They
Say if you do You Have a Religious Spirit DEMON INSIDE YOU, and You are just to
Let The So Called Pastor, do all the Speaking in this Home Church on what ever
A Spirit Spoke to Him No Matter if it Lines up with Scripture or Not, He is in
Charge, and He talks right over you, no one is allowed to TEST THE SPIRITS to
see if That Writing Came from God or a Counterfeit DEMON LYING acting Like He
is God, The Scripture says
1Jo 4:1Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they
are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
Many of His-> Thus Saith Lord Writings of Lies and Condemnation to The
Saints, and False Teachings That Go against WRITTEN SCRIPTURE ,
2Pe
1:20knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private
interpretation,
2Pe
1:21for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God [fn] spoke
as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
1Cr 14:33For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the
churches of the saints.
Jam
3:16For where envy and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing are
there.
Jer
14:14And the LORD said to me, "The prophets prophesy lies in My name.
I have not sent them, commanded them, nor spoken to them; they prophesy to you
a false vision, divination, a worthless thing, and the deceit of their heart.
Lam
2:14Your prophets have seen for you False and deceptive visions; They have not
uncovered your iniquity, To bring back your captives, But have envisioned for
you false prophecies and delusions.
Eze
22:28
Her prophets plastered them with untempered [mortar], seeing false visions, and
divining lies for them, saying, 'Thus says the Lord GOD,' when the LORD had not
spoken.
GOD NEVER GOES AGAINST HIS WORD HE WROTE THROUGH HIS PROPHETS of OLD THE 66
Books of The BIBLE !
This man Daniel Clark has told me over and over he does NOT KNOW Scripture, can't Remember
any Scripture at all, BUT THE BIBLE Say's even for us Bad memory Folk, if
indeed you HAVE The HOLY Spirit,??????
Jhn 14:26But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will
send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your
remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Jhn
15:26But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father,
[even] the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify
of me:
This Group is SO Obsessed with EVERYTHING is a DEMON's Fault, Including EVERY
CHRISTIAN They Believe has Demons inside Them With The Holy Spirit TOO ! This
is a Lie, MAN Has a Will to Say
YES or NO to SIN its Not a DEMONS FAULT YOU FELL YOU Gave in to Sin,
Jam 1:12Blessed is the man who endures temptation; for when he has been
approved, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to
those who love Him.
Jam 1:13Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am tempted by God"; for
God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone.
Jam 1:14But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and
enticed.
Jam
1:15Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is
full-grown, brings forth death.
Jam 1:16Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren.
SO ENOUGH OF THIS LAME EXCUSE THE DEVIL MADE ME DO IT DOCTRINE,
HE DID NOT, CAUSE JESUS DISARMED HIM AT THE CROSS
Col 2:8Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit,
according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the
world, and not according to Christ.
Col 2:9For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;
Col 2:10and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and
power.
Col 2:11In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without
hands, by putting off the body of the sins [fn] of the flesh, by the
circumcision of Christ,
Col 2:12buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him
through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.
Col 2:13And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your
flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses,
Col 2:14having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us,
which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it
to the cross.
Col 2:15Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle
of them, triumphing over them in it.
Col 2:16So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or
a new moon or sabbaths,
Col 2:17which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.
Col 2:18Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility
and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not [fn] seen,
vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
Col 2:19and not holding fast to the Head, from whom all the body, nourished and
knit together by joints and ligaments, grows with the increase that is from
God.
One
of Their Members lives down The Street, and sticks His Nose in the Air at us
when He Speeds by Our Trailer Park , One Night while I was walking my Dog down
the Street This Same man Almost ran me and my Dog over After He Ran The Stop
Sign Speeding "IS THIS THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD ?" RUNNING OVER
A BROTHER, (Read Gal. Chapter) And.( 1Cor Chapter 13) And
(Eph. Chapter 5 The Fruit of The REAL SPIRIT "
THIS GROUP APPROVES OF SEXUAL Immorality and They SAY I am NOT TO JUDGE a
BROTHER Living a Double Life ,LOOK at What 1 Cor. Chapter 5 The Whole Chapter
To Judge The House of God, and this kinda sins Brings Coruption to The Whole
Church, The Whole Chapter Instructs us to deal with This Wicked Person, in Vs.
1Cr 5:11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a
brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or
a drunkard, or an extortioner— not even to eat with such a person.
1Cr
5:12 For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not
judge those who are inside? <------- ( THE CHURCH)
1Cr
5:13 But those who are outside God judges. Therefore "put away from
yourselves the evil person."
This CULT Condemed me for telling this to the Group this man here in Town is
Sleeping around from woman to woman ,Drinking at Bars, Partying, 5 or more
Christians Brothers confronted Him and He Fought with Everyone of them, so
Scripture says after taking a Witness TELL IT TO THE CHURCH ,
Mat 18:15 "Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his
fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your
brother.
Mat
18:16 "But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that 'by
the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.'
Mat
18:17 "And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he
refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax
collector.
YET THEY STILL ACCEPT HIM in THEIR GROUP THIS WICKED MAN ! BAD FRUIT ! BAD
LEADERSHIP !
, This Wicked Cult Actualy Seen with their OWN Eyes This Spirit of Lust on this
Guy working THAT VERY NIGHT YET They Condemmed me for Speaking out as a
Watchman Warning of a WOLF Among Them ! The BAD TREE BAD FRUIT is SO
EVIDENT in THIS CULT !
The Leaders there Like to Go around Stalking Christians here to see if they can
TEASE The Demons They THINK are inside Christian's, They Drive to Christians
House's and Park and Stalk them at the Saints House's, They Use to Drive by us
Everyday and Watch us when several brothers worked for The Park Manager here in
RV Park This was Stalking us too, and Watch them and then drive off, They Leave
Nasty CONDEMNING NOTES on Christians Doors with sayings Like GOD is Gonna
Banish you, She JEZEBEL Said your not suppose to get married, She Laughed and
When my brother's girlfriend He Hoped to marry That Loves Jesus When they Broke
up She This JEZEBEL Laughed at His Pain and Loss, Is This The Fruit from a Good
Tree or a Bad Tree ? A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing They Say God Say's your Not
suppose to Preach The Gospel to unbelievers , You have to wait for this Double
Portion Anointing ,"The Latter Rain" So I Guess we Through Out The
Commands already given by Jesus and ACTS 1;8 The Power Given to be His
witnesses, and Mark 16;15,Go Preach The Gospel,Matt 28:30 Make Disciples .and
if you Give your Testimony of what Jesus has done in your Life as a Open door
to Share The Gospel They Call this Idolatry to share your Testimony, This is
some of The Worst Unbiblical Fruit I have seen in any CULT , AUTHORITARIAN
ABUSE, CONTROLLING, CONDEMNATION, ACCUSING THE BRETHREN , They DON'T OBEY THE
SCRIPTURES ,THEY Talk Behind Everyone's Back including members here on The
Forum, They Think they are so enlightened no matter what other Christan's have
tried to show them where there are in GREAT ERROR and Left The Faith,
TWO Prophets and Spoke Correction to Them and told them to REPENT and RETURN to
SOUND DOCTRINE and to Get Accountability to by Other Elders in The Body of
Christ , They Call us Demon Possessed Lier's, They Blaspheme The Holy Spirit
inside every Christian Bought by The Blood of Jesus, call them Demons,
Mat 10:25 It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master,
and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house
Beelzebub,(Which Means Prince of Demons) how much more [shall they call] them
of his household? (His Disciples)
Mat
10:26 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that
shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.
Mat
10:25 The student shares the teacher's fate. The servant shares the master's
fate. And since I, the master of the household, have been called the prince of
demons, [fn] how much more will it happen to you, the members of the
household!
BRETHREN This has to Be Exposed, I Don't enjoy Exposing Cults But They are Lying,Deceiving
Christan's, they Sneak their way into Ministries and Lure them into their CULT,
of Lies,
Their Website is Full of False Words from The Lord that Go against Scripture
This is Their Website
Look for yourself at This False Prophets Writings -> http://www.churchofstrawberryarizona.com/
The Lord gave me a Dream The Other Day on Imposter's Among us, I Posted
it here,
http://www.watchmanscry.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11444
I have witnessed JEZEBEL's ->HER SO called Mass Deliverance ministry video
Which is Blasphemy of The Holy Spirit inside a Spirit Filled Christian,I seen
HER Kiss DEMONS and She Says DEMONs Hate to be Kissed ,Where is This
Scripturally ???????? This is HERSEY False Teaching,DOCTRINES OF DEMONS TAUGHT
BY JEZEBEL SPIRIT IS WHAT THE LORD SHOWED ME !
Here is The Video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfU8hGGQgrA&feature=related
and this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXKlAc7U8Hc&feature=related
How would you like to go to this Church for Building ,Exhorting The Saints ,
and Everyone is Spitting,Cussing, Swear words,throwing up,flipping all over the
pews, jumping, and Screaming, is This ORDER in The HOUSE of GOD ?
1Cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the
churches of the saints.
1Cor 14:40Let all things be done decently and in order.
This
is a HUGE LIE as Most of us Saints That a Rooted and GROUNDED in The Word of
God Know That LIGHT and Darkness Can't coexist in The SAME Temple of GOD, We
Have Been already Delivered When Jesus Came into us The Temple of God, and The
Holy Spirit SEALED us for The Day of Redemption
Eph 4:30And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for
the day of redemption.
Jhn 8:31Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, "If you abide in
My word, you are My disciples indeed.
Jhn 8:32"And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you
free."
Jhn 8:34Jesus answered them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever
commits sin is a slave of sin.
Jhn 8:35"And a slave does not abide in the house forever, but a son abides
forever.
Jhn 8:36"Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed.
infact
this is what Scripture says What Church Should Look Like
Order in Church Meetings 1 Cor. 14 26-33
26 How is it then, brethren? Whenever you come together, each of you has a
psalm, has a teaching, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an interpretation.
Let all things be done for edification. 27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, let
there be two or at the most three, each in turn, and let one interpret. 28 But
if there is no interpreter, let him keep silent in church, and let him speak to
himself and to God. 29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others
judge. 30 But if anything is revealed to another who sits by, let the first
keep silent. 31 For you can all prophesy one by one, that all may learn and all
may be encouraged. 32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the
prophets. 33 For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the
churches of the saints.
I Didn't Enjoy Having to write this AT ALL But Exposing Cults ,Wolves,False
Prophets are The Job of a WATCHMAN Too along With Dreams, Visions, words from
The Lord, These Groups Like This Agape Harvest Church Claiming to be "The
Remnant" are Lying,Deceiving Christians,Transferring Demons Onto
Christians as I have seen this with My own Eye's and Watched their walks fall
apart, til they get away from this Cult and God Straightens Them Out, This
Group they Sneak their way into Ministries and Lure them into their CULT, of
Lies, And I would Not Love God or my Brothers and Sister's Enough I f I Knew
The Truth about this group and KEPT Silent, Let Alone any Christians that Get
deceived in this Cult Their BLOOD would be upon my Head !
SO I have Blown The Trumpet to the Precious Sheep of Jesus Christ Our Lord The
Good Shepherd !
DAN AND SHARLENE CLARK LIED ON THAT SLANDER BLOG THEY DID NOT
FOLLOW DAVID ELLS TEACHINGS OR EVEN KNEW HIM, BUT I HAVE EMAILS PROVING THEM
LIARS ->
Dear
LARRY,
You have received a new private message at The Watchman's Cry from Katherine,
entitled "Re: Hi Kathy do you or Dan have a Copy of The Book
Sovereign God by David Eells ?".
To read the original version, respond to, or delete this message, you must log
in here:
http://www.watchmanscry.com/forum/private.php
This is the message that was sent:
***************
---Quote (Originally by LARRY)---
Hi Kathy do you or Dan have a Copy of
The Book "Sovereign God" by David Eells ?
I could borrow to read ?
Thanks Larry
---End Quote---
Hey Larry,
Seems Dan has brought you a copy already! Have a great day!
Kathy
***************
Dear
LARRY,
You have received a new private message at The Watchman's Cry from danshar,
entitled "Re: Hi Kathy do you or Dan have a Copy of The Book
Sovereign God by David Eells ?".
To read the original version, respond to, or delete this message, you must log
in here:
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This is the message that was sent:
***************
---Quote (Originally by LARRY)---
Hi Kathy do you or Dan have a Copy of
The Book "Sovereign God" by David Eells ?
I could borrow to read ?
Thanks Larry
---End Quote---
Yes....we will
give you your own copy.......Dan will bring it by.......we've had it for months
waiting to give it to you...and bonus book with it....
***************
<
caught liars how about David Ells himself emailed who knew them both
and their sinful lying false spiritual marriage after they divorced
their current sponse s for no reason -> JESUS SAID IN THE BIBLE THAT DAN AND SHARLENE CLARK ARE COMMITING ADULTRY THIS MEANS THEY
BOTH ARE SINNING AGAINST GOD AND JESUS COMMANDS , DAN AND SHARLENE ARE
UNDER STRONG DELUSION OF THAT FALSE TEACHING BY DOUG PERRY "SPIRITUAL
MARRIAGE," WHICH ANGELS OF LIGHT "DEMONS GAVE DOUG ,DAN AND SHARLENE
TELL EVERYONE GOD TOLD THEM TO DIVORCE THEIR OLD SPOUSES AND MARRY EACH OTHER ?? AGAINST WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES ? I THINK NOT !! GOD DOES NOT SPEAK TO US AGAINST HIS WORD HIS COMMANDS BUT LYING DEMON SEDUCING SPIRITS DO, ->
JESUS SAID ->>>
Luke 16:18 18 “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced from her husband commits adultery.
THIS MEANS THE VOICES THEY HEAR ARE NOT GOD BUT DEMONS SEDUCING THEM -> 1 Timothy 4:1
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;AND DAN'S AND SHARLENE'S TEACHINGS AND
WRITINGS ARE BY FALLEN ANGELS DEMONS SEDUCING SPIRITS DOCTRINES OF
DEMONS AGAINST GODS HOLY WORD AND TEACHINGS THAT >>DO NOT<<
LINE UP WITH THE BIBLE SCRIPTURES , THEY ARE TERRIBLY DECEIVED AND
DECEIVING OTHERS AS SCRIPTURE WARNED US OF HERE ->
2 TIM 3:
13 But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived. <<
THATS WHY THEY BECAME A CULT ! SEDUCING SPIRITS THEY OPENED THE DOOR TO
UNREPENTIVE SIN AND ALLOWING THE KUNDILINI DEMON IMPARTED TO THEM BY
FALSE PROPHETS WHO LAYED HANDS ON THEM, UNDER THE STRONG DELUSION OF THE
SPIRIT OF ANTI CHRIST FALSE REVIVAL LATTER DAY RAIN FALSE DANGEROUS
SATANIC TEACHING ! WHICH MANY WATCHMAN'S TRIED TO CORRECT AND RESTORE
AND DAN AND SHARLENE CALL THEM DEMONIZED AND ATTACKED THEM , LIKE THEY
DID ME,WHICH THEY BOTH BLASPHEME THE HOLY SPIRIT INSIDE GODS
TEMPLE-> CHRISTIANS . TALK ABOUT PURE EVIL !
BUT
I SEE THIS HAPPENING TO THESE TWO AND THEY DO NOT EVEN RELEIZE FATHER
GOD HAS ALREADY TURNED THEM OVER TO STRONG DELUSION 2 THESS. 2 ! AND
GOD TOLD ME STOP PRAYING FOR RESTOREATION THEY MADE THERE DARKNESS
CHOICE AND HURT MANY SAINTS OF GOD SHEEP ABUSERS FATHER HAS TURNED THEM
OVER AL! >>>>
2 Timothy 3 ->>>>
[ Perilous Times and Perilous Men ] But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of
money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents,
unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without
self-control, brutal, despisers of good, ... 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! 6 For
of this sort are those who creep into households and make captives of
gullible women loaded down with sins,>ADULTRY FROM UNBIBLICAL DEVORICE led away by various lusts, 7 always learning<< FROM THEIR FALSE TEACHERS THEY FOLLOW and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 Now
as Jannes and Jambres resisted Moses, so do these also resist the
truth: men of corrupt minds, disapproved concerning the faith; 9 but they will progress no further, for their folly will be manifest to all, as theirs also was.
Luke 16:18 18 “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced from her husband commits adultery.
EMAIL FROM DAVID
ELLS ->
Larry
I havent read all of this but:
Dan and Sharlene had been separated from me for years before I heard they got
married. She even prophesied my death the next day once, which of course
didn’t happen. That was the last I heard of her. They never told me they
were going to marry and I don’t believe in spiritual marriage as everyone
knows. I preached against Doug perry who believed this. Ask them. I also discerned they both have Kundilini demons in them,
David
Another Testimony from another Saint whos band
member Church Member John Stuppy Came here to Strawberry, Az, CULT Agape
Harvest Church ->>
Dannii are you saying That you
Know John Stuppy that was a Victim
of this SAME CULT here in Strawberry, Az. AGAPE HARVEST CHURCH cult ???
Dannii Can you share MORE what Happened to John Stuppy
by Dan and Sharlene Clark here in Strawberry ?
Larry, you are not alone in being a victim of that ministry.
In fact, my dear brother in Christ and musical partner in AusDisciples Band,
John Stuppy, was a victim of their dangerous heresy and emotional abuse. He
still bears the scars of living with them for a short time. I have been praying
for him in this matter and will also pray for you too.One more thing Larry, Dan
and Sharlene do not like me at all. They told John that the music we were
writing was of the devil, that I was a false teacher and they warned him to
stay away from me.
Praise God though, John left them and returned to his home
but not without some deep spiritual wounds from his time in Strawberry.
I prayed for him constantly while he was there. It pained me
greatly to know what he was going through. Fortunately, even while he was
there, he still maintained contact with me and he told me the things Dan and
Sharlene had said about me.
I still pray fervently for John. He has gone through so much
(even disregarding the stuff in Strawberry) and he is in much anguish. He is
very dear to me.
Dannii Can you share MORE what
Happened to John Stuppy by Dan and Sharlene Clark here in Strawberry ?
Indeed I do know John very well. He is a dear brother in Christ to me and we've
worked together on most of the songs we've released as AusDisciples Band.
He lived with Dan and Sharlene for a short while and suffered much confusion
and anguish through their dangerous false teachings on deliverance.
I'll send John an email and ask him if he'd be willing to chat with you
directly.
I really want to reach out to him, I know that pain , and spiritual
abuse that especially Sharlene does , Father told me she is a Jezebel witch and
destroys God's sheep, yes if anyway I can get in touch with John I can help him
heal , Sharlene hurt us all especially Jose , Manny is taken over by spirits i
seen in his eyes Sharlene transferred them on him , I prayed for John without
knowing who he was Jose and I both did cause we knew the wicked witch of the
west Sharlene torments God's servants , I am doing a video on this cult how
they hurt many people, Kathy from watchman's cry got hurt too , she really got
mixed up by the seducing spirits hanging out there ,If it were not for the
prayers of the Saints here on the forum and Facebook , I was so depressed from
these attacks I wanted to end my life a few times, i could not take all the crying
day and night , and the loneliness, , I am better now , this forum has really
been a strength for me when i had none left , Sharlene Clark is trying to run
me out of town, here in Strawberry but Father has not told me to leave yet , I
went through a lot here here embraced a painful cross, but Father has a plan
I will post that youtube video on here when i get it done , hopefuly it
helps others from being hurt by these wolves . you can give john my email and
facebook too if you like,
Larry
by
Dannii on
Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:56 pm
Larry, you are not alone in being a victim of
that ministry. In fact, my dear brother in Christ and musical partner in
AusDisciples Band, John Stuppy, was a victim of their dangerous heresy and
emotional abuse. He still bears the scars of living with them for a short time.
I have been praying for him in this matter and will also pray for you too.
Dannii wrote:One
more thing Larry, Dan and Sharlene do not like me at all.(YUP THEY HATE ALL TRUTH LOVING CHRISTIANS
WHO SEE THROUGH THEIR FALSE TEACHINGS AND ABUSE , THEY HATE ME TONS !)
They told John that the music we were writing was of the devil, that I was a
false teacher and they warned him to stay away from me.
Praise God though, John left them and returned to his home but not without some
deep spiritual wounds from his time in Strawberry.
I prayed for him constantly while he was there. It pained me greatly to know
what he was going through. Fortunately, even while he was there, he still
maintained contact with me and he told me the things Dan and Sharlene had said
about me.
I still pray fervently for John. He has gone through so much (even disregarding
the stuff in Strawberry) and he is in much anguish. He is very dear to me.
Dan
and Sharlene clark made many FALSE WITNESS, FALSE REPORTS , SLANDER and
GOSIP about me another EX Cult Member and Friend Scott Fullmer He is
also my RV Park Land lord LOOK at what Back stabbers and EVIL Mouths Dan
and Sharlene Clark said About Scott Fullmer who never DID One thng
wrong to them but LEAVE Cult like the rest of us after confrnting ERROR
and False teachings and abuse -> Sharlene Clark from
I want to say
your article has a very familiar ring…..the Lord himself said to us the same
thing about Larry over a year plus ago…poison!This happened at the time that
Larry moved onto the trailer park/property of a brother in Christ, Scott. My
husband had a brother named Scott that committed suicide by drinking poison.
The Lord used that death of my husband’s brother killing himself to drive the
point home what was about to happen to Scott…the brother in Christ. Scott had
become very close to my Husband…it was like the Lord was giving him another
brother with the same name. Scott came over faithfully every Friday night for
fellowship...he was a new Christian and he was progressing in his walk...we
could see the beginning of some fruit developing. We broke bread every Friday
night and our meetings would go sometime till 4 AM sharing and enjoyed speaking
about the things of the Lord until Larry moved onto Scott’s property. Once
Larry moved onto the trailer park things began to change, Scott was being
influenced by Larry’s poison. The Lord said just like your brother Scott died
from poison…Our brother in Christ, Scott would die from the spiritual poison
Larry was feeding him….it has all come to pass. Scott had never been the same
since. Larry was so violent and attacking the neighbors at Scott’s trailer park
and Scott did nothing to stop him…. Larry now had control of Scott and his
trailer park. That is when Scott began to become very strange…..very paranoid.
At one point he told us that if he comes over on Friday nights the neighbors
might see him, Larry had already been going to all the churches and speaking
unkind words about us. Scott is an ex-military and rough and tough guy…and
expert marksman and had competed all over the world. He was very grounded and
disciplined man.What was to be a short trip to Kenya back a year plus has
become his home…he’s left his home of 15 years. He says he’s doing missionary
work there…although when he came back from a short visit…he looked like he was
dying….lost a lot of weight and sunk-in eyes…he looked very bad. We believe
Larry relentless abuse drove Scott away….we just never understood why he would
leave his home and trailer park, until we learned in just the past months that
Larry is intimidating Scott with information about his trailer park that would
cost Scott a bundle to deal with…”IF” reported to the city inspection
department…..in short blackmail!!!!So your statement…..Once you digest it, it
becomes a part of you - not only the message but the spirit of the
message-bringer as well…is correct! Larry’s poison has injured so many in the
faith howbeit many were new believers (not able to stand) or those whose walks
are fleshly or carnal have for the most part turned away from the faith. <Sharlene said ALL LIES ABOUT SCOTT a EX CULT Memeber and Myself I Showed This Slander Blog Statement Sharlene Clark wrote to Scotts sister and mom and Dad The Fullmers THEY COULD NOT BELIEVE THEIR EYES
WHAT THAT JEZEBEL WITCH SHARLENE CLARK said About Scott their son a
Level headed Man of God Missionary On fire for Jesus and a True Servant
!! Sharlene clark Your Fruits are SHOWING HERE BAD WOLF TREE BAD FRUIT !
Sharlene Clark from Strawberry,AZ,
wrote these lies on that slander blog: we are pretty sure this is correct info. Also, we are pretty sure Larry
is collecting his own disability check for mental--- as well as other --health
issues---. So, there were TWO sources of income, his and Michales.Then, Larry
was apparently blackmailing the landlord for his lot rent, and maybe getting
paid for managing the park while the landlord had escaped to Kenya to get away
from him.
We were told
by more than one neighbor that Larry was using Michale disability money to
supply his living expenses.
One
question is.. what happened to Larrys room mate who supposedly left
Larry and Strawberry last year? Poor fellow. What kind of shape was he in, last
seen? I wonder if he had physically and spiritually deteriorated after his
contact with Larry like Scott did? We heard he died in 2011, at about age 44.
If he died, << this Jezebel
Sharlene Clark that said this is a Total liar Mike Never died He is in
Oregon alive, this is EVIL LYING FRUIT of a Lying WOLF and neither ME or
Mike Ever Had Disability Checks She is a Liar Mike aplied for disabilty
because He has Very bad Back and COPD and Bone osteoporosis but was denied over a year ago, and I am Sane and Get NO Disabilty checks either, This Witch is flat Lying!
Sharlene Wrote and Caught in a Lie They Dan and herself were Not involved with David Ells and yet about Iahve a Email from David Ells Himself from Unleavened Bread Ministries says he Knows them very well, SHARLENE you are a CAUGHT LIAR ! from the Father of all Lies SATAN She Wrote on that slander blog ->
We
expected this attack and false allegations to come in against these pastors. It
has all the earmarks of a Larry Jordan and Patricia Hagemann mutual shark
attack. We will defend them and their right to post and warn about you and your
lies against them. The Clarks have already informed us they were not involved
with the David Eells cult. <<< hello caught Lying!!!!
once again here is davids email KNOWS Dan and Sharlene Clark before they even married in their False Spiritual marriage ->
EMAIL FROM DAVID
ELLS ->
Larry
I havent read all of this but:
Dan and Sharlene had been separated from me for years before I heard they got
married. She even prophesied my death the next day once, which of course
didn’t happen. That was the last I heard of her. They never told me they
were going to marry and I don’t believe in spiritual marriage as everyone
knows. I preached against Doug perry who believed this. Ask them. I also discerned they both have Kundilini demons in them,
David
More of my Eye witness Testimony and why I am still here in Strawberry,Az.->
Yes
totally cause I know for a fact from bro Jose that left that cult
too told me Sharlene does curse prayers against the Saints like She
would pray harm or destruction .( like when she and Dan would come park
behind my Motorhome stalking us and say curse prayers against all 3 of
us then drive away ) When Jose lived here in park with me
Sharlene had powers to stir up the whole RV Park when she walked or
drive by all Hell would break loose fights for no reason things
breaking. People getting sick all of sudden. A huge dark feeling .Fear
and panic every time she came near to me Jose and Mike . We all 3 seen
the same evil thing 1 day they drove by in their SUV and they stopped
to look at us then all the windows are down but we could not make out 1
human image in their SUV we all seen the same thing and it scared us . I
started praying and doing spiritual warfare against Jezebel Witchcraft
and
I heard the Holy Spirit say they are dark because there is no light
in them no truth and I when I heard the Lord say that I knew they were
apostate and they were turned over to strong delusion right on the spot.
They stalked us 3 for 6 months they would just show up out of no way
and that bad Dark feeling was with them everytime Jose and I later when
he moved out of RV Park when we got to together somehow -> witchcraft
I think Sharlene or Manny the other wolf would show up out of the blue
like she had a famliar
black cat watching us . This happened all through our little town and
Payson 20 miles away How did she know when Jose and I got together and
prayed fellowshiped ? Simple witchcraft Divination Her Demons were
watching us constantly. WHAT I AM SHARING WITH YOU WRITE NOW brethren I
HAVE
NOT SHARED WITH VERY MANY PEOPLE I WONDER IF I SHOULD INCLUDE this
details of torment and stalking in my blog and felt YES TO PROTECT THE
ELECT REMNANT OF GOD SHEEP FROM GOING THIS ABUSE FROM THIS EVIL CULT ,
But
the strange Darkness and being
watched and followed by Dan and Sharlene .(I EVEN GOT THEM STALKING US
ON VIDEO DOING IT AND PUT IT ON YOUTUBE ASKING FOR HELP FROM WATCHMANS
CRY FORUM) I wanted all 2 years here
just to pack up my RV ARK and leave away from.this Evil cult . They
have hurt other Sheep too before I came here their cult broke up 3 times
Jose told me before I even came Here YEA DEE SMITH Didn't TELL ME THAT
or all The ABUSE !! And Jose Said that Dan and Sharlene Clark said the
Holy Spirit told them
to divorce their current spouse s for no reason no adultry no
fornication so that they can marry 1 another and have a spiritual
marriage<<<( Like what false prophet Doug Perry teaches) that
is not God geez the Holy Spirit does not go against the
Word of God the Bible says do not divorce unless in the case of
adultery so we know that they have seducing spirits Angels of Light
appearing to them not the angels of God and not the Holy Spirit speaking
to them those voices telling to divorce and Marry each other AGAINST
SCRIPTURE ?? they were seducing spirits Demons
talk about bad Fruit. Bad Tree . WOLVES
I Fought The Lord to Wanta Leave Strawberry,Az. ASAP 2.5 yrs ago But Father showed me a
sign while praying by the lake across the street. I Never heard of one
til that night, as i looked over the Lake its was sprinkling rain and a
Bright Moon behind me , I seen a REAL MOONBOW not a Rain Bow but a MOON
Bow made by the moons Lights and Sprinking rain, and I Heard FATHER
Clear as a Bell You are in The Place I Want you to be, and ran home and
Told Jose and Mike They Thought I was on Acid lol But they looked and
seen it too, so I been here ever since BUT I wanted MY FLESH wanted to
Go back to Oregon I miss so bad , I Have 0 Fellowship up here everyone
is Apostate or of HARLOT Churched which I came out in obedience to Fathers
Command Rev 18:4-6 but yes thats why I am here , many bad
memories here, But Yes Father has a Plan , What drives me nuts is No
fellowship though and while crying my eyes out to Father one night I
begged Him WHY am I ALONE NO FRIENDS FAMILY FELLOWSHIP with The Saints
He said I have taken away ALL your distractions to Focus on ME ALONE
,Then He Said I will Gather my Saints when its TIME , Well I didn't like
that (my lonely flesh that is),
But FATHER Knows Best He Runs The Universe so i
said ok your will be done Believe me sister ROSE I have Learned The Way
of THE CROSS DYING to SELF Daily is painful, Lonely and not many walk
this STRAIGHT and Narrow Path that leds to Life FEW are those who find
it, its a Painful Path in our Human emotional Flesh Bodies , I Know what
The Apostle Paul Felt when He Struggled in His CROSS Walk too, Pain ,
People
say I have a Powerful Anointing, A GREAT Light God has Made me, BUT
They do Not Know The Cost , the Pain the loneliness of this call, if you
notice THE REAL WATCHMANS,PROPHETS are Not RICH, FAMOUS, or Even Loved ,
But Persecuted,Hated, mocked, Slandered, Tribulation is what follows
TRUE BIBLE FOLLOWING CROSS BARING DISCIPLES of CHRIST ,
THIS
STRAWBERRY,AZ. AGAPE HARVEST CHURCH OF DAN AND SHARLENE CLARK PEOPLE ARE A MARKED CULT BY ALL THE CHURCHES HERE IN PINE,AZ.
AND STRAWBERRY,AZ. AS A LATTER DAY RAIN DOUBLE PORTION OUTPOURING, THEY FOLLOWED
DAVID EELS UNLEAVENED BREAD MINISTRIES, -NEW APOSTOLIC REFORMATION ,DOMINION
NOW, JOELS ARMY CULT , SEE FOR YOUR SELF ON THEIR WEBSITE OF DAN AND
SHARLENE CLARK http://www.churchofstrawberryarizona.com/
All the
churches pastors in these 2 towns know that these 2 have strong delusion spirited people ,have false
teaching right on their own website, and testimonies of many Ex-members of
spiritual abuse from these people a CULT , they have been known to lie and have
strange false dreams and visions that do not line up with scripture, they are
obsession with Demons as you look at their False Deliverance Ministry Tab on
their Cult webpage . they Lied about Scott too, Scott left their Cult as He
Researched The N.A.R. Latter Day Rain false teachings and Discovered between
His Pastor John Lake and myself we showed him in the Word of God, thats when Scott left the
Group, Sharlene and Dan are under strong Delusion and LIE, and liying about
Scott, FACT is THEY are under LYING DEMONS that why the WHOLE GROUP
LEFT,
THE "FALSE"LATTER RAIN REVIVAL
Agape Harvest church Cult teaches ->
Modern Prophets have received “new revelations” of the end-time
which, until now, have not been understood by the Church. Truly, a
“New Breed” of Apostles and Prophets is being raised up who will assume
their end-time role of leading the Church to take dominion and to
execute God’s judgments in the world. Vineyard Ministries Apostle, Jack
Deere, believes that the two witnesses in Revelation 11 may very well be
Kansas City Prophets, Paul Cain and Bob Jones.(1) Says Paul Cain:
“God is raising up a new standard, a new banner if you will, that’s
going to radically change the expression, the understanding of
Christianity in our generation…God has invited us to have a role in
establishing this NEW ORDER of Christianity…God is offering to this
generation something He has never offered to any other generation…
Beware lest OLD ORDER brethren rob you and steal this hope from you!(2)
Bob Jones has received special revelation about this new hope:
“I have called the best of every blood line in earth unto this
generation…I have elected to bring them forth in this generation…THE
ELECT GENERATION…even the bloodline of Paul…of David…of Peter, James and
John…They will even be superior to them in heart, stature and love for
me’…Your children will possess the spirit without measure…They will move
into things of the supernatural that no one has ever moved in
before…coming into the DIVINE NATURE of Jesus Christ…a Church that has
reached the full maturity of the GODMAN! This generation…is going to see
the beginning of this WORLD WIDE NEW ORDER.”(3)
Are you having difficulty discerning or receiving this “new
revelation”? Then perhaps you have been interpreting your Bible in the
“old way” — comparing Scripture with Scripture, studying diligently to
account for every jot and tittle and being careful to rightly divide the
Word of truth. If this describes you, then you belong to the “Old
Generation” which will not enter in to “possess the land” in the Latter
Rain Revival. You may even be a member of a denominational church with
its dogmatic confession of faith and statement of doctrine. These
legalistic forms will be relics of the past in the up and coming
“Postdenominational Church.” Paul Cain advises that you “dump all that
carnal stuff” (doctrine) and listen to what the “spirit” is saying to
the churches through the Latter Rain Prophets and Apostles, who are
dispensing many “new, sacred truths.”
Now, back to your Bible study. In your Bible you will want to change
the book of “The Revelation of Jesus Christ” to “The Manifestation of
the Sons of God.” That’s right, we are not to be looking for the
“coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering unto Him.” Nope.
That would be an “escapist mentality” to be repented of at once if we
would be Overcomers. Instead, we should be looking forward to the
glorification of the Corporate Church, which will become perfect and
immortal here on earth before the Second Coming. In fact, as Jesus
comes “spiritually and invisibly” to His Church, He will actually
“incarnate” the Corporate Body and reveal Himself to the world through
miraculous signs and wonders performed by the “Manifest Sons of God.”
This great end-time Company is really the “Manchild” of Revelation 12
which will rule the nations with a rod of iron. (You will need to
replace Israel with the Church in this passage.) Yes, this end-time
Church is also the prophetic fulfillment of the dreadful army in Joel 2,
which is God’s agent of judgment to cleanse the earth of evil during
the “times of restitution.” (You will find this army also in Revelation
9!) Since the Manifest Sons of God are “the Christ,” they will be
putting all things under their (oops!) His feet, including the “old
order” brethren.
Are you wondering by what authority the modern Prophets and Apostles
presume to confer this Divine Right upon themselves and their followers?
Not to worry! Paul Crouch, President of Trinity Broadcasting Network,
has provided the following exegesis of Jesus’ parable:
“Read the parable of the Wheat and the Tares in Matthew 13:24-30 and
you will see that at the end of this age the “ANGELS” are sent forth to
remove evil from the earth. That word “ANGELS” also means messengers.
So God may use some of us to finish up the work of this age.”(4)
Those who would be chosen as the elect Manifest Sons of God by the
modern Apostles and Prophets, must first repent of their old divisive
attitude of separation from error. Christ cannot incarnate a divided
church and for this reason we will need to be delivered from our narrow
doctrinal point of view and join the ecumenical crowd on the Broad Way.
It matters not that the blood of the martyrs was shed contending for
the faith that was once delivered to the saints. Those who persist in
being contentious about doctrine may join them when the great “revival”
arrives circa A.D. 2000.
Over 50 years ago, William Branham, George Warnock, Paul Cain and
others attempted to introduce Latter Rain/Manifest Sons of God teachings
into the Pentecostal movement. In 1949, however, the Assemblies of God
officially rejected the Latter Rain/ Manifest Sons of God doctrine as
“heresy.” The cult went underground but surfaced again in the 1960’s as
the Manchild Company. Disregarding the Assemblies of God decision, Paul
Cain, the Kansas City Prophets and Vineyard Ministries have subsequently
reintroduced and successfully established this false doctrine in the
Pentecostal churches.
The Latter Rain/Manifest Sons of God doctrine “involved a man-child
elite group of Overcomers taking dominion over all nations and reigning
in the heavenlies while overseeing drastic judgment on all who remained
in the ‘old generation’ — i.e., the denominational churches! The
Latter-Rain teachings promised a Second Pentecost outpouring to empower
this elite group, and to incarnate the Christ within them to the degree
that they will become perfect and invincible, even to the overthrow of
heavenly powers.”(5)
Today, few recall the controversy surrounding Latter Rain/Manifest
Sons of God doctrines fifty years ago and their repudiation by the
Church. Of necessity, they are now camouflaged and Christians must have
an accurate understanding of Scripture to discern these counterfeit
winds of doctrine. Charismatic churches are well-established in Latter
Rain doctrine and Evangelical churches are currently being indoctrinated
via numerous parachurch organizations and movements. Latter Rain
teachings include: Kingdom Now/Dominion Theology, Progressive
Revelation, Revival/Harvest, Joel’s Army, Replacement Theology,
Post-Millennial Eschatology, Signs and Wonders, Territorial Warfare,
Ecumenism, Restoration of Apostles and Prophets, Jubilee/Feast of
Tabernacles, and the Post-denominational Church.
GNOSTICISM
Latter Rain doctrine is a modern version of the classic heresy of
Gnosticism, which taught that a spiritual elite possessed “hidden
knowledge” of the divine realm which placed their personal revelations,
spiritual experiences, and private interpretation of Scripture above the
ordinary revelation of God’s Word. In Latter Rain doctrine, Pentecost
was the “former rain” or outpouring of the Holy Spirit and the Church
must yet receive a second Holy Spirit visitation. At this time, the Sons
of God will be glorified and manifested to all as they establish the
Kingdom on earth before Jesus Christ returns bodily. Latter Rain
prophets are now preparing multitudes for this transformation. In a 1991
program entitled “Manifested Sons of God,” Morris Cerullo flattered his
audience with the following blasphemy,
“You represent all that God is and all that God has…Jesus was the
visible expression of God. Jesus was the Son of the Living God. Now, who
are you? Sons of God…everyone say it. What is working inside of us is
the manifestation. When you look at me, you are looking at Jesus…To see
Jesus was to see God. To see me is to see Jesus. Jesus knew who He was.
Don’t you think it is about time we know who we are?”(6)
Benny Hinn fills convention centers worldwide preaching a similar
message, which exalts the creature rather than the Creator, and induces
spiritual pride:
“This spirit-man within me is a God-man. Say after me, he’s born of
heaven, he’s a super-being…Say I’m born of heaven – God-man. I’m a
God-man. I’m a sample of Jesus. I’m a super being. Say it! Say it! Who’s
a super being? I walk in the realm of the supernatural. Get the
spirit-man renewed…when he’s strong, he’ll hold off sickness…you want to
prosper? Money will be falling on you from left, right and center. God
will begin to prosper you, for money always follows righteousness…Say
after me, I hold my destiny.”(7)
Thus, whole congregations are bewitched with the prospect of
unleashing their potential as ‘Godmen’ in the approaching “Latter Rain
Revival.” This predicted restoration is an outgrowth of Replacement
Theology which appropriates to the Church the promises of restoration
which God gave to Israel, specifically Joel 2:23 and Hosea 6:3. James
5:7 simply states that the Church must patiently wait for the coming of
the Lord as the husbandman waits for the “latter rain” to receive the
full harvest. The saints will then reign with Christ, as seen in
Revelation 19. Neither Daniel, Matthew 24, Thessalonians nor Revelation
mention a great Christian revival, but characterize the period before
the Second Coming as a perilous time of great deception, paganism,
apostasy from the faith and persecution of the saints.
In I John 4:1-3, Christians are enjoined to “believe not every
spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false
prophets are gone out into the world.” However, there is a common theme
in many of the new revelations that those who resist the “new move of
God” as unscriptural are lukewarm, immature or even divisive members of
the Body. The following prophecy by Gwen Shaw, President of End-Time
Handmaidens, is typical of this attitude:
“If you can’t think in a new way, if you can’t accept what I am going
to do, you will burst. You will not be able to accept the expansion of
this new wine. This new wine shall cause many to expand in their
understanding of the ways of God. Because some are not equipped, and
some are not prepared, and because of their indifference and their
critical spirit, their wineskins shall burst.”(8)
Those in authority who indiscriminately censure believers for
questioning new revelations are interfering with an important step in
the biblical process of testing prophecy. Yet throughout the Latter Rain
move, leaders have scarcely, if at all, encouraged the church to be
like the noble Bereans in Acts 17 who “searched the Scriptures daily,
whether those things were so.” Rather, they commonly protest that any
objection to the new revelations is of a judgmental spirit or a personal
attack on the prophets. These rash assumptions prevent all honest
discussion concerning the doctrinal bases for assumed “new” revelations.
Paul Cain even advised his audience to wait until they get to heaven to
examine his exposition of the ‘Manchild Company,’ which would never
stand the test of Scripture:
“…I know some of you are going to disagree with this. Don’t you even
stop to disagree. Revelation 12:5. If you disagree, just file it in
‘miscellaneous’ and check it out. And don’t bother with it; when we get
to heaven we’ll check it out and you’ll find out I’m right…”(9)
NEW AGE PARALLELS
However inconsistent it may be with the Word of God, Latter
Rain/Manifest Sons of God eschatology agrees on every point with the New
Age Movement’s anticipation of the exaltation of mankind to godhood and
the establishment of a New World Order. The following appraisal of
Latter Rain theology by New Age Unity pastor, Rev. Earnest Ramsey was
cited in Constance Cumbey’s book, A Planned Deception, The Staging of a
New Age Messiah,
“Rev. Ernest Ramsey, an associate pastor at Unity’s Kansas City’s
Founder’s Church, Unity on the Plaza, is an enthusiastic follower of the
Alice Bailey and Benjamin Creme teachings. In his Research Report #2,
he tells of something he was led to by a spirit guide – what he terms
‘Neo-Pentecostalism.’ An aberrant branch of Pentecostalism, this is more
commonly known as the ‘Manifest Sons of God.’ That movement is also
referred to as ‘Sonship’ or ‘Overcomers.’ Ramsey concludes based on even
less evidence than I have personally collected that this is part of the
New Age Movement.
“Ramsey’s work for his organization, ‘Synthesis Fellowship,’ first
came to my attention in early 1983. His major report, entitled “An
Evolutionary Basis For The Reappearance of the Christ and his
Executives, the Masters of Wisdom” was inspired by Benjamin Creme’s
appearance and speech at Unity on the Plaza in Kansas City, Missouri. . .
The most interesting section of Ramsey’s report dealt with
‘Neo-Pentecostalism.’ Ramsey spent a semester at one of the
Neo-Pentecostal or Manifest Sons of God seminaries (in upstate New
York). . . Already familiar with the Alice Bailey writings, he was
amazed to see that there was a branch of Pentecostalism that embraced
the same teachings — albeit using sometimes different terminology.
“Like those seeking the ‘Age of Aquarius’ these people too were
seeking a ‘New Age.’ Like the other New Agers, these people taught that
‘The Christ’ was an anointing – not necessarily one man. They taught
that Jesus was a pattern son who was to be a sign of something even
greater to come – the ‘Manifestation of the Sons of God.’ They too
believed the earth was to be cleansed of evil. And chillingly like the
other New Agers, they believed they were to be ‘God’s’ instruments to do
such cleansing. The New Agers believed they were gods. The Manifest
Sons of God likewise taught that if one accepted their ‘new revelation’
that they themselves would actually become Christ at the time of the
unveiling or manifestation of the Sons of God.”(10)
Other prominent New Age leaders have openly expressed the intention
of their movement to infiltrate the Christian Church in order to
introduce their esoteric teachings and to “draw away disciples after
themselves.” In The Unfinished Animal: The Aquarian Frontier and the
Evolution of Consciousness, Theodore Rosak revealed that, “Charismatic
congregations in main-line churches are entry points into the Aquarian
frontier.”(11) Alice Bailey, Theosophist and mother of the modern New
Age Movement, revealed an ingenious plan in her 1957 volume, The
Externalisation of the Hierarchy. Cabalist agents would infiltrate the
Christian Church to modify its message, while adapting it as a vehicle
for the Universal Religion of the 21st Century.
“…The church movement, like all else, is but a temporary expedient
and serves but a transient resting place for the evolving life.
Eventually, there will appear the Church Universal, and its definite
outlines will appear towards the close of this century… This Church will
be nurtured into activity by the Christ and His disciples when the
outpouring of the Christ principle, the TRUE second Coming has been
accomplished… the Christian church in its many branches can serve as a
nucleus through which world illumination may be accomplished… the church
as a teaching factor should take the great basic doctrines and
(shattering the old forms in which they are expressed and held) show
their true and inner spiritual significance. The prime work of the
church is to teach, and teach ceaselessly, preserving the outer
appearance in order to reach the many who are accustomed to church
usages. Teachers must be trained; Bible knowledge must be spread; the
sacraments must be mystically interpreted, and the power of the church
to heal must be demonstrated.”(12) (Italics added)
ANOTHER PENTECOST?
In Latter Rain doctrine, paramount emphasis is placed on the proposed
Year of Jubilee A.D. 2000, when all nations and a “united” Church will
celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. The prophetic fulfillment of this
Feast is said to occur prior to the return of Christ. Latter Rain
prophets claim that this will also be a “Second Pentecost,” since the
first was ‘incomplete.’ Christ will then appear in the midst of His
people and be incarnated in his Body, filling the Corporate “Christ”
with His glory, which will then be poured out on all flesh.
“There is another realm of spiritual experience typified in scripture
by the Feast of Tabernacles. Until we understand and partake of this
feast, as we have both Passover and Pentecost, we will never fulfill our
destiny and calling. We must discover the meaning of the Feast of
Tabernacles and ‘celebrate’ it along with Passover and Pentecost…What
God did among Jews in Jerusalem, He is going to do among humanity and
worldwide. Pentecost will come to maturity in the feast of
Tabernacles.”(13)
This Latter Rain “Second Pentecost” during Tabernacles is suggestive
of the “Planetary Pentecost” preached by Barbara Marx Hubbard as the
peaceful “alternative to Armageddon.” At this time, a “quantum leap” in
the evolution of mankind will occur as revealed to her by “the Christ”:
“At the moment of cosmic contact, I will appear to you both through
inner experience and through external communication on your mass media.”
Says Ms. Hubbard, it will be a time when “the divisions of the
religions would be over…We would each know that God is within us…If all
who feel we are connected to each other, to nature and to God join in a
planetary Pentecost, we shall be transformed in this lifetime. I believe
in the peaceful second Coming.”(14) Earnest Ramsey perceived virtually
no difference at all between the New Age Tabernacles/Year of Jubilee and
the Latter Rain interpretation of these celebrations.
“Ernest Ramsey excitedly pointed out in his report that [the Manifest
Sons] had a teaching which indeed did parallel the Aquarian teaching of
the Age of Aquarius — the Old Testament ‘Year of Jubilee’ as well as
the ‘Feast of Tabernacles.’ The Year of Jubilee paralleled the
redistribution of the world’s wealth. The Feast of Tabernacles was the
equivalent of the coming together of the World’s peoples and varied
religions under one tent or tabernacle — the equivalent of the New
Agers’ long-awaited ‘New World Religion.’”(15)
Coincidental with the Latter Rain/New Age agenda to celebrate
Tabernacles in the proposed Year of Jubilee, the Vatican Central
Committee is coordinating with other Catholic Rites and church
conferences, such as Episcopal, Anglican Communion, World Lutheran
Federation, World Reformed Alliance, Methodist World Council, the World
Council of Churches for a celebration of the Great Jubilee “which will
take place simultaneously in the Holy Land, in Rome and in the local
Churches throughout the world.”(16) In ancient Israel, the 50 year
Jubilee celebration freed all slaves, canceled all debts, and restored
properties to the original owners. Pope John Paul II, New Age/New World
Order planners and Pat Robertson (17) of the Christian Broadcasting
Network have all called for the worldwide redistribution of wealth and
cancellation of debt in 2000 A.D.–severe measures that would precipitate
the collapse of secular economies which have not planned for this
adjustment.
Concurrent with Rome’s initiative, International Christian Embassy
Jerusalem is promoting “Taste of Tabernacles” celebrations in Christian
churches and parachurch ministries worldwide. Johann Luckhoff, Director
of ICEJ, was invited by New Age advocate, Jay Gary, to speak at the
ecumenical A.D. 2000 Global Conference on World Evangelism in Seoul,
South Korea in 1989. Says Luckoff, “One of the reasons I was invited to
Korea was because the organizers of the GCOWE hope to have the next
gathering in Jerusalem at the end of the millennium. That should be
quite an event.” George Warnock would agree. In 1951, Warnock forged a
definitive doctrine for the Latter Rain Movement in his book, The Feast
of Tabernacles, and specifically noted that the “Christ should visit the
saints…and minister his life ‘in secret’ before He is openly
manifest.”(18)
Zechariah 14:16 states that the nations will go to Jerusalem annually
to worship the King and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles, after the
return of Jesus Christ. Which “Christ” will the Latter Rain prophets
worship?
“We must not miss this point: the replacement theology of the
Manifest Sons of the Latter Rain, which New Ager Ramsey called
‘Neo-Pentecostalism,’ has brought the Age of Aquarius into the Church
under the guise of the Feast of Tabernacles and the Year of
Jubilee.”(19)
NEW REVELATION
To defend their unbiblical exposition of many doctrines, Latter Rain
prophets and apostles claim that “new” teachings, prophecies and
interpretations of Scripture are progressively being unveiled which have
heretofore not been revealed to the Church. Even though such visions,
prophecies and revelations are unsupported by the Word of God, they are
nonetheless canonized as doctrine because they were accompanied by
spiritual experiences. However, Hebrews 1:1,2 states, “God who at sundry
times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the
prophets, hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son.” Since
Jesus Christ is the Word of God, I Corinthians 14:29 contains the
provision that all prophecy in the church be tested and judged by its
conformity to Scripture. Isaiah 8:20 declares, “To the law and to the
testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there
is no light in them.”
In 1993, Charismatic Pastor John Hinkle prophesied nationally that on
Thursday, June 9, God would remove the evil from the earth. That this
was a false prophecy should have been apparent to believers from the
beginning, for Scripture is clear that evil will not only remain in the
world, but will increase before Jesus Christ returns. Deuteronomy 18:22
states, “When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing
follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not
spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously.” False prophets
in Israel were to be stoned. Mercifully, the church is to judge prophets
and reject those who do not speak according to sound doctrine or whose
word is not specifically fulfilled. However, Christian leaders did not
reject Hinkle’s prophecy as false but dissembled, claiming that an
earthquake in South America or unknown event in the invisible realm
fulfilled its conditions. Could not the latter rationalization be made
for all prophecies that default?
“New” revelations extend beyond the parameters of God’s Word and give
opportunity for false teachings to be introduced to the Church. The
mischief that ensues from the acceptance of false prophecy is
considerable. The transition from John Hinkle’s prophecy to Paul
Crouch’s outrageous statement that Christians will soon remove the tares
from the wheat was subtle. We have yet to see the damage that will
result from Pat Robertson’s astonishing claim in a 1984 televised sermon
that, “God spoke through a word of prophecy in May 1968, and said, ‘I
have chosen you to usher in the coming of My Son.’”(20) Robertson also
announced then that the Christian Broadcasting Network will provide
worldwide coverage of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ from the Mount
of Olives in Jerusalem.
Which “coming” is precarious, for it seems that more than one
“Christ” is presently expected to return. One researcher has pondered
Pat Robertson’s prophecy:
“I can’t see any way out of his cameras melting if he attempted such a
thing with the true coming. II Thessalonians 1:7,8 describes that
extraordinary day, ‘…when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven
with His mighty angels in flaming fire.’ II Peter 3:10 states, ‘But the
day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in which the heavens
shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with
fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be
burned up.’”(21)
It is unlikely that Pat Robertson will televise the Lord Jesus Christ
in His glorious return from heaven. Perchance it may be “that Wicked
One, even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power
and signs and lying wonders.”
ANOTHER CHRIST
New Agers have studied Bible prophecy carefully, especially Matthew
24, and have documented plans to technically stage a “Second Coming,”
which would be acceptable to Christians, New Agers, et al. David Bay,
Director of Old Paths Ministries, says that these plans have been
published in a book entitled, The Armageddon Script, by New Age leader
Peter LeMesurier. However, before that event, there will be another
supernatural, psychic occurrence:
“Pope John Paul II is anxiously awaiting a potent world-wide Marian
Vision. (World) chaos is to precede this vision. This vision will
validate the global reign of Pope John Paul II and will establish him as
the ultimate spiritual Judge of the Planet… the purpose of this
super-natural vision is to validate the Roman Catholic church as the
only true church and this Pope as God’s ordained
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This Blood, this event will be most powerfully psychic. The force
accompanying this vision will be so powerful it will literally bring the
normal activity of the world to a standstill. Men will be so moved that
their ‘consciences will cry out with fear.’ This vision will produce an
‘engulfing chaos, along with misdirection, and disequilibruim in human
affairs. In other words, the entire population of the world will
experience a simultaneous changing of their minds…The vision will be
preceded by either a loud sound, a bright light…
“These effects are identical to those which New Age writers have
predicted during the appearance of Anti-Christ… (1) A loud sound will be
heard world-wide which will herald the coming of Maitreya, the Christ.
Prompted by this sound, people will be aware of his coming on three
distinct levels: Spiritual, physical, and emotional. (Alice Bailey’s The
Externalisation Of The Hierarchy, p. 173.) (2) ‘…When Lord Maitreya
appears, he will appear as different beings to different people… Thus,
he will show that he is all things to all people.’ (Bill Lambert,
speaking at Seminar, ‘Possible and Probable Events In The Future,’
Theosophical Society, Boston, Massachusetts, August 8, 1991). (3) His
three-dimensional image will appear over all nations of the earth
simultaneously. He will speak to each ethnic group in their own
language. We know this is technologically possible with computer images
via telecommunication satellite. (Constance Cumbey, Hidden Dangers Of
The Rainbow, p. 24-25).
“We also know that Satan could produce this phenomenon by his
Super-Natural power alone. New Age writers clearly state, however, there
will be a mixing of super-natural phenomena and advanced technology
when the staging of the Anti-Christ occurs… New Age Leaders boldly state
in their Plan to use the special effects of modern TV and movies to
persuade the people of the world that Maitreya is who he claims to be.
‘…the use of such special effects should not be ruled out on this
occasion. The world’s news-media can be counted upon to do the rest.’
(The Armageddon Script, Peter Lemesurier, St. Martin’s Press, 1981, p.
236) The New Age book, The Messianic Legacy, states that the only way
the Messiah could be super-naturally staged in all aspects that
Christians are expecting would be through the use of “Hollywood.”(22)
True believers will meet the Lord “in the air” (not on earth) and He
will return with them to earth, not as a “peacemaker,” but to destroy
the nations gathered at Armageddon. The unthinkable will become
“religiously correct” when Evangelical and Charismatic shepherds lead an
apostate Church in the worship of a false Christ. Revelation 13:15
further states that, “as many as would not worship the image of the
beast should be killed.”
JOEL’S ARMY
In view of this prospect, an alarming “new revelation” taught by the
modern prophets is that the end-time Church is God’s army in Joel 2,
which will judge the Old Order and bring in the Kingdom. In Prophecy
Today, Clifford Hill explained, “This teaching is part of what is known
as ‘dominion theology’ which teaches that an elite army of ‘overcomers’
will either destroy or subdue all the enemies of Christ until they
eventually gain power and authority throughout the world. The government
of the nations will be upon their shoulders and when all the secular
authorities, governments, princes and kings have finally submitted to
them, Christ will return and they will present the kingdom to him.”(23)
According to Rick Joyner, Christianity must be destabilized and
redefined by modern apostles, prophets, etc. to finalize Alice Bailey’s
plan to “take the great basic doctrines and shatter the old forms in
which they are expressed and held.”(24)
“What is about to come upon the earth is not just a revival, or
another awakening; it is a veritable revolution. The vision was given in
order to begin to awaken those who are destined to radically change the
course, and even the very definition of Christianity. The dismantling
of organizations and disbanding of some works will be a positive and
exhilarating experience for the Lord’s faithful servants. A great
company of prophets, teachers, pastors and apostles will be raised up
with the spirit of Phineas…”(25)
To sanctify this Machiavellian plot, Jack Deere recasts Joel 2 in the
context of Ezekiel 9: “When this army comes, He says it’s large and
it’s mighty. It’s so mighty that there’s never been anything like it
before…‘begin the slaughter and begin it in the temple and begin it with
the elders, the leaders of my people.’ And they walk through the land
and they start and they begin to slaughter and you know it’s already
started with the biggest names in His household? He has already started
the slaughter…and it is coming now among the Church.”(26) Vineyard
pastors James Ryle (Promise Keepers), John Arnott and Wes Campbell
(Toronto Blessing) and prophets Bob Jones and Rick Joyner all report
visions of “a bloody civil war” in the Church:
“James Ryle has had a similar vision. The Lord even showed him how
the blue coats stand for the revelatory, the revelation, and the grey
for grey matter, man’s wisdom. And in this context the north fought the
south and the south fought the north, and the south wanted to keep the
people enslaved. They wanted their money. They wanted their keep the
system going. And the north said ‘No! Freedom! Freedom!’ And they went
into a terrible fight, and it was father against son, brother against
brother, and a man’s enemies were in his own house. And the angel said
this: ‘There won’t be a house that escapes weeping.’” (27)
Such prophecies do not edify the Church, but are inflammatory and
undermine the true unity of believers for which Jesus prayed in John 17.
Nevertheless, they give increased momentum to the program of New Age
leaders such as Alice Bailey, who wrote, “The reorganization of the
world’s religions…is for the new world religion.”(28) Barbara Marx
Hubbard divulged the real reason for the New Age mission, “There is an
anti-evolutionary cadre of orthodox believers who focus on the limits of
this life and the unworthiness of human nature. Now they would destroy
our capacity to transcend…”(29)
She and other New Age leaders have estimated “that for planetary
transformation to take place, up to one quarter of the inhabitants of
the earth will have to be excised like a cancer.” Given the animosity
that has been generated by Latter Rain prophets toward Biblical
Christianity and the affinity of this movement for warfare terminology,
it is hard to resist the suspicion that the New Age/Latter Rain regime
will be using a militant Church to accomplish this. Prophet Rick Joyner
has even identified “Antichrist” as the traditional Church (30) and Jack
Deere claims that modern prophets will execute the Tribulation
judgments.
“You see why we’re excited about someone like Paul Cain or Bob Jones
coming on the scene? Or others that we’ve met…you know those two
powerful witnesses in Revelation 11:3? You know what – they are first
and foremost? They are prophets. He said they will prophesy for 1,260
days. He’s going to end the last days just before
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and will eclipse anything we have ever seen before…the significance of
these signs and wonders…But they don’t just happen on the earth. They
come because they are prayed for and they are predicted by God’s
people.”(31)
It would be unwise to nonchalantly dismiss these claims as idle
braggadocio. Paul Cain, Bob Jones, Rick Joyner and other Latter
Rain/Manifest Sons of God proponents have paranormal experiences on a
regular basis and have demonstrated occult powers.
“Bob Jones (KFC’s resident seer) is a man who claims to have five to
six visions and revelations per day. We are talking about a man who
thought he was a backslider when two days went by without a visitation
from Jesus…Paul Cain…is called the ‘Terror of the Lord’…and has
exhibited the ability to tell people the details of their lives, hidden
sins and even things they have said in confidence to others. There have
been reports of earthquakes and other natural disasters predicted by
him…(and) power surges of electricity at places where he ministers.”
(32)
ANOTHER GOSPEL
False prophets preach “another gospel,” which is not the true Gospel
of Jesus Christ. Vineyard scholar Jack Deere has even admitted that he
is not sure of the true gospel. In an interview, Deere told Robert Dean
of Biblical Perspectives, “I used to be like you…thinking the gospel was
simply justification by faith.”(33) This spiritual advisor to John
Wimber, late Director of Vineyard Ministries, added that the gospel
would have to include works, such as healing and deliverance. This false
gospel of works is leading a Zf� ^ E��}@ � W쇼H� :�=P��]�@`�mP ��2�ed
by signs and lying wonders and riding the ecumenical bandwagon, the
Latter Rain/ Manifest Sons of God will be easily assimilated into the
Mystery Religion revival foretold in Revelation 17. II Thessalonians
2:10-11 describes God’s judgment, which has already begun in this
movement: “…because they received not the love of the truth, that they
might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion,
that they should believe a lie.”
Gnostic doctrines are not a new revelations, as modern prophets tell
us. Although they come in various expressions, they always contain the
same lie the Serpent used to beguile Eve –”…then your eyes shall be
opened, and ye shall be as gods.” Neither are Gnostic doctrines the true
Gospel of Jesus Christ, but rather the false gospel of the “King over
all the children of pride.” This corrupt tree always bears
evi Zf� ^ E A�}@ �nW쇼H� :�=P��a�@`�mP �� g that we must be
cross-bearers. The church now seeks adulation and quickly becomes a seed
bed for pride, greed and power all under the guise of spiritual
growth.”(34)
There are few today who are willing to take the low seat at the
Wedding Feast. Often we must look to the message of older generations
(of whom the world was not worthy) for inspiration to seek a better
resurrection and an heavenly country…
ANOTHER ARTICLE EXPOSING THE FALSE
LATTER DAY RAIN TIED TO THE FALSE ANTI CHRIST PROPHETIC MOVEMENT READ
HERE->> http://www.christianresearchservice.com/The_Prophetic_Movement.htm
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THE LATTER RAIN
July 26, 2009
The message from the Prophets from the beginning and in our day,
has always been, REPENT FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND. Yes, it is the same
message the Old Testament and the New Testament has told all, who have sought
the Lord within His Word.
The enemy has sought to stop this message for many years. He has
used many ways to try to throw Gods Elect off track from finding this Truth in
Gods Word. One thing he has never learned, when our Father wants to raise up
His Chosen Elect, there is nothing the devil can do to stop Him.
The Lord has shown me through His Holy Spirit, that everything
Jesus did in the Gospels, He will do again, through His Chosen Elect. In the
Gospels, satan tried to kill the Man-Child, Jesus, by slaughtering all the
children 2 years old and younger. He used an Apostate King who did not want to
lose his position as king.
Then satan tried to tempt Jesus when He was 30 years old and
ready to start His ministry. At the end of His 40 day fast, when Jesus was
physically weak, he tempted Him with food and worldly things. Satan likes to
test us when we are tired and weak also. As the Word says in Ecclesiastes 1:9,
THE THING THAT HAS BEEN, IT IS THAT…WHICH SHALL BE; AND THAT…WHICH IS DONE…IS
THAT…WHICH SHALL BE DONE: AND THERE IS…NO NEW THING…UNDER THE SUN. This
scripture is very important to the Body of Christ, because it tells us that All
that has been done in the Word of God, will be done again.
The Lord showed me that we can understand the hour we are living
in, by knowing the Word of God for ourselves and comparing it to what we see
going on all around us. He also showed me that Everything Jesus did at His
First Advent, He will do again, in and through His Chosen Elect. These are
Saints that He would raise up and separate unto Himself, as He did with John
the Baptist and again in these Last Days. He then places them in the Wilderness
Spiritually, so He can reveal Himself to them and prepare them, to walk out the
Gospel, just as He did in Christ Jesus.
He showed me that His Chosen Elect, would bring the Unleavened
Bread of Life, back to the Apostate church. Giving the church an opportunity to
Repent, and return to God, just as He did with Natural Israel. Our Father will
not Judge the church until they have been corrected as was Natural Israel. If
they choose then to go their own way, they will judge themselves unworthy of
the Mercy of God, and Perish along with the wicked. All who our Father has
Chosen to be saved, will hear His voice. Jesus said, only “My sheep, know His
voice.”
The Lord showed me that when we begin to see the saints of God,
who have been hidden and unknown, walking in the same Power He
walked, speaking with His Authority, <-- (RED FLAG)Look up,
for your Redemption Draweth Nigh.
Jesus is coming back for Himself <-- (RED FLAG). It is
the “Body of Christ” that will go to be with the Father, when He calls them
Home. Most of the churches today, are trying to save Babylon. (Babylon, is what
ever nation, in which they live.) Beloved, this world is not our Home. We are
to be like our Father, Abraham. He was Promised a land of his own. That land,
is the Kingdom of God, and the Kingdom is, Jesus Christ, the Zion of God.
We see great danger coming upon the earth and especially upon all
who Love Jesus Christ. The question is, do we Love Jesus enough to not Deny
Him, even unto death? All who have been called out into the wilderness early,
have had to begin the process of dying to self and the world. Today’s churches
as a whole, do not focus on this. Self, wealth and Happiness now, is order of
the day. Building bigger buildings, to feather the nests of their version of
the Kingdom of God. Ever notice that all the churches are called, so and so and
so’s church. It is not Jesus’ church anymore; it is some cemetery trained
preacher’s church.
I am now going to give you some scriptures that will help you see
that our Lord is coming back, but not as most of the churches think. He is
coming back,within His Obedient saints.<--- (RED FLAG )
Remember Ecc 1:9
Colossians 1:26-27 EVEN THE MYSTERY…WHICH HATH BEEN…HID FROM AGES
AND FROM GENERATIONS, BUT NOW…IS MADE MANIFEST…TO HIS SAINTS: TO WHOM GOD…WOULD
MAKE KNOWN…WHAT IS THE RICHES…OF THE GLORY…OF THIS MYSTERY…AMONG THE GENTILES;
WHICH IS…CHRIST…IN YOU, THE HOPE OF GLORY: Did you hear that? The Mystery is
Jesus in us, Finishing His works in the earth. We will see the same Miracles He
did, flowing through us, His Beloved Bride. Glory to our God.
Deuteronomy 11:11-14 BUT THE LAND, WHITHERYE GO TO POSSESS IT,
The Body of Christ, is the Promised Land. IS A LAND OF HILLS AND VALLEYS, AND
DRINKETH WATER…The Word of God, Jesus Christ. OF THE…RAIN…The Holy Spirit. OF
HEAVEN: A LAND WHICH THE LORD…THY GOD…CARETH FOR: We are His Land, His Chosen
Elect. THE EYES OF THE LORD THY GOD…ARE ALWAYS…UPON IT, FROM THE BEGINNING OF
THE YEAR…EVEN UNTO THE END OF THE YEAR. AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS, IF YE
SHALL…HARKEN DILIGENTLY…UNTO MY COMMANDMENTS Obeying Gods Word. WHICH I COMMAND
YOU THIS DAY, TO LOVE…THE LORD…YOUR GOD, AND TO…SERVE HIM…WITH ALL YOU HEART
AND…WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, (Key verse) THAT I WILL GIVE YOU…THE RAIN OF
YOUR LAND…IN HIS…Notice He says, in His. The Rain is alive,<-- (RED FLAG) it is
the Holy Spirit. DUE SEASON, THE FIRST RAIN Jesus’ First
Advent. AND THE LATTER RAIN, <-- (RED FLAG)Which is
coming very soon to Prepare the church to be Jesus’ Bride, Without Spot or
Wrinkle.
Beloved, the church today is not ready to called Spotless or
without Wrinkle. We must go through the Refining Fires of the Tribulation.
Remember the three Hebrew children in the Book of Daniel and how they would not
Bow Down to Nebuchadnezzar’s Statue? They chose to Stand upon Gods Word and not
defile themselves with the king’s Babylonian Idol. The king was so angry, he
heated the furnace, 7 times hotter. This is a type and shadow of the 7 year
Tribulation. Each year, the Persecution will be turned up. Hotter and Hotter.
It is the same today. We will be expected to Bow Down to satan’s kingdom, the
N.W.O. or die for our Faith. Ecc 1:9 again.
Father, help us to See and Believe Your Word in the Spirit. The
condition of the church today is seen here in Isaiah.
Isaiah 28: 5-13 IN THAT DAY…Now Beloved. SHALL THE LORD OF
HOSTS…BE A CROWN OF GLORY, AND FOR A DIADEM OF BEAUTY, UNTO…THE RESIDUE…The
Remnant. OF HIS PEOPLE, AND FOR A SPIRIT OF JUDGMENT, For those who will not
hear His voice and Obey. AND FOR STRENGTH…TO THEM…THAT TURN THE BATTLE TO THE
GATE. Those who will fight in the Spirit. BUT THEY ALSO HAVE ERRED…THROUGH
WINE, AND THROUGH STRONG DRINK…ARE OUT OF THE WAY; THE PREIST AND THE
PROPHET…HAVE ERRED THROUGH STRONG DRINK, False and lying spirits. THEY ARE
SWALLOWED UP OF WINE, THEY ARE OUT OF THE WAY…THROUGH STRONG DRINK; The Holy
Spirit of God has left them. THEY ERR IN VISION, Blind to the things of God,
because of their rebellion and love of money. Today’s church. THEY STUMBLE IN
JUDGMENT. FOR ALL TABLES…Where the saints are to be fed. ARE FULL OF VOMIT…AND
FILTHINESS, SO THAT THERE IS…NO PLACE CLEAN. The unclean, Apostate church. WHOM
SHALL HE…God. TEACH KNOWLEDGE? AND WHOM SHALL HE MAKE TO UNDERSTAND DOCTRINE?
THEM…THAT ARE WEANED FROM MILK, AND DRAWN…FROM THE BREAST. Those God has
trained Himself and given Revelation Knowledge,<-- (RED FLAG)Should
Never come against God's word but agree and testify of it, as
they have studied His Word.
Verse 10 FOR PRECEPT MUST BE UPON PRECEPT, PRECEPT UPON PERCEPT;
LINE UPON LINE, LINE UPON LINE; HERE A LITTLE, AND THERE A LITTLE:
Verse 11-13 FOR WITH STAMMERING LIPS AND ANOTHER TONGUE…The
Baptism of the Holy Spirit. WILL HE SPEAK TO THIS PEOPLE. TO WHOM HE SAID, THIS
IS…THE REST…WHEREWITH YE MAY CAUSE…THE WEARY TO REST; Who are these weary?
Those who Name His Name, but are trying to walk the Christian walk in their
flesh. The Holy Spirit gives them the Power to overcome their sin. AND THIS IS
THE…REFRESHING: This Refreshing came at the First Pentecost and soon again,<-- (RED FLAG) when the
Latter Rain Falls.where does Scripture say this ?
YET…THEY WOULD NOT HEAR. Ecc 1:9 again. History
repeats, for at Jesus’ First coming, many would not hear and soon again at His
second coming, in us,<-- (RED FLAG) there will be many who will
not receive this great Blessing,<-- (RED FLAG) because of
their unbelief. BUT THE WORD OF THE LORD…WAS UNTO THEM…PRECEPT UPON PRECEPT,
PRECEPT UPON PRECEPT; LINE UPON LINE, LINE UPON LINE; HERE A LITTLE, AND THERE
A LITTLE; THAT THEY…MIGHT GO, AND FALL BACKWARD, These are the Lukewarm, who
have mixed the world in with their walks with the Lord. They do not know the
Word of God for themselves and because of their “Lack of Knowledge,” and
Unbelief, it hard for them to Stand upon the Promises of God. AND BE BROKEN,
AND SNARED, AND TAKEN. Father, please help Your Remnant to See and Hear Your
Precious Word, Jesus Christ.
Job 29:23 AND THEY WAITED FOR ME…Those who are waiting for the
Holy Spirit to fall. AS FOR THE…RAIN; Pentecost, where the Holy spirit fell
upon the Faithful. AND THEY OPENED…THEIR MOUTH WIDE…As one who is thirsty for
the Anointing of God. AS FOR THE…LATTER RAIN. A second Pentecost, in the
Spirit, who will fall upon the Last Days Faithful. <-- (RED FLAG) where does
Scripture say a Second Pentecost ? Acts 1:8 is Joels
prophecy being fullfilled,
Proverbs 16:15 IN THE LIGHT…OF THE KING’S COUNTENANCE…IS LIFE;
AND…HIS FAVOR…IS AS A CLOUD…OF THE LATTER RAIN. That brings in the Fruit and
the Harvest. Praise You Father.
Jeremiah 3:1-2 tells us of the Harlotry of Gods people, then and
now, but then the Lord tells them in Jeremiah 3:3 THEREFORE…THE SHOWERS…Of
Anointing and Blessing. HAVE BEEN WITHHOLDEN, AND THERE HATH BEEN…NO LATTER
RAIN; To Finish Gods Harvest, because of our sin. AND THOU HADST A WHORE’S
FOREHEAD…Marked for death in the Spirit. THOU REFUSEDST TO BE ASHAMED. We are
so full of Pride, we are Blinded to our wickedness and sin. We must
Repent and be Filled with the Former and soon, the Latter Rain.<-- (RED FLAG)
we have already repented and made Peace with God through our Lord
Jesus Christ says in Romans
Jeremiah 5:23-25 BUT THIS PEOPLE…HATH A REVOLTING AND A
REBELLIOUS HEART; THEY ARE REVOLTED AND GONE. Where? Away from Knowing and
Obeying Gods Word.
VS 24 NEITHER SAY THEY IN THEIR HEART, LET US NOW…FEAR…THE LORD
OUR GOD, Which is the Beginning of Wisdom. THAT GIVETH…RAIN, BOTH…THE
FORMER…AND…THE LATTER, IN…HIS SEASON: In His, in the Lord’s Season, or timing.
HE RESERVETH…UNTO US…THE APPOINTED WEEKS OF HARVEST. All who our Lord will have
Mercy upon and send out into His Harvest.
VS 25 YOUR INIQUITIES…HAVE TURNED AWAY…THESE THINGS, AND YOUR
SINS…HAVE WITHHOLDEN GOOD THINGS…FROM YOU. The ability to walk a sinless life
as Jesus did. This is the Gospel. The Power to walk as Jesus did and do the
Greater works He spoke of in the Gospels.
Hosea 6:1-3 COME, AND LET US RETURN…UNTO THE LORD: FOR HE…HATH
TORN, God, in His Mercy, has caused us to be Chastened, to bring us to where we
can begin to Hear Him again. AND HE WILL…HEAL US; HE HATH SMITTEN, AND HE
WILL…BIND US UP.
VS 2 AFTER TWO DAYS…2,000 years. This is the Morning of the Third
Day, Millennium, Right now, Beloved. Just as Jesus was Resurrected on the
Morning of the Third Day, so will He be Resurrected within His Bride and
His Last Days saints, Finishing the Harvest of His Remnant saints. <-- (RED FLAG) WILL
HE…REVIVE US: IN THE…THIRD DAY…HE WILL RAISE…US UP, Into His Image, and He will
do the Greater Works, through our yielded vessels. AND WE SHALL…LIVE IN HIS
SIGHT. Hallelujah!
VS 3 THEN…SHALL WE KNOW, IF…WE FOLLOW ON…TO KNOW THE LORD:
Seeking Him Daily within His Word, To Know Him in the Fullness. HIS GOING
FORTH…Jesus going forth…in us. IS PREPARED AS THE MORNING; The Morning of the
3rd Day Millennium. AND HE SHALL COME…UNTO US…AS THE RAIN, The Holy
Spirit Anointing. AS THE LATTER RAIN The Double Portion of the Holy Spirit. AND
FORMER RAIN A combination of the Former Rain Anointing, Renewing the Chosen
Elect and the Latter, Rain falling upon the Faithful, whom our Father has
Prepared to receive the Fullness of Christ. This is the Power of God, flowing
through Gods Elect, as it did through Moses and Elijah.<-- (RED FLAG)
Mat 24:23"Then if anyone says to you, 'Look,
here is the Christ!' or 'There!' do not believe it.
Mat 24:24"For false christs and false prophets
will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the
elect.
Mat 24:25"See, I have told you beforehand.
Mat 24:26"Therefore if they say to you, 'Look,
He is in the desert!' do not go out; or 'Look, He is in the inner rooms!' do
not believe it.
Mat 24:27"For as the lightning comes from the
east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
Joel 2:23 BE GLAD THEN, YE CHILDREN OF ZION, AND REJOICE IN THE
LORD…YOUR GOD: When we see Jesus Living and walking out His Word again, within us,
His people,<-- (RED FLAG) do not add to or take away from
God's Word
Deu 12:32 What thing soever I command
you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.
we will surely…Rejoice. FOR HE HATH GIVEN YOU…THE FORMER
RAIN...MODERATELY, The First Pentecost. AND HE WILL CAUSE TO COME DOWN…FOR
YOU…Each of us who dare to Believe. THE RAIN, THE FORMER RAIN, Being poured out
now within Gods Chosen Elect, to prepare the way for the Latter Rain to fall on
All who God has Prepared to Receive it. AND THE…LATTER RAIN…IN THE FIRST MONTH.
Now Beloved, you can see the value in dying now and asking our
Father to do whatever it takes, to prepare us for His Blessed Presence in the
Spirit. As we Decrease and He Increases, we shall see the greater
works begin to come forth. Beloved, we can all see the great danger
coming over the Horizon. It will truly be…Tribulation, like no one has ever
seen before. This is why we must open our hearts and receive His
Fullness. Only Jesus Christ Himself, can Endure this. “Christ in us, the Hope
of Glory.” The less we have given to Him of ourselves, the harder it will be to
Endure the Fires of Purification. We must keep our eyes upon our Savior and our
Deliverer, Jesus Christ.
Father, we need Your Wisdom, to Fear only You, and Your Mercy and
Grace, to open our hearts to receive, what has been kept and hid, from the
Foundations of the world. The weapons You are offering us, if we will only
Believe, will destroy the works of darkness, Forever. Holy is Your Name, Most
High. Amen
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FALSE MOVEMENT AND TEACHING OF THE LATTER DAY RAIN,JOELS ARMY,MANIFEST
SONS OF GOD ,MAN CHILD read below false movement not biblical at
all.
Remember the song that went, "Oh when the saints, come marchin' in, oh when the
saints come marchin in, Lord I want to be in that number when the Saints come marchin'
in." This is not the tune you'll find Joel's army sings because they are not looking
to be brought up to Jesus but waiting for Christ (the anointing) to be brought down upon
them to march through the land.
The church that once looked toward being taken away to heaven (Jn.14) has been taught
by some to change her focus. In about the mid-70's a triumphalist post-millennial doctrine
appeared. Instead of watching for the blessed coming of the Lord the goal became to
establish the Kingdom on earth. Doctrines about the rapture, tribulation, an end time
apostasy with a literal personal Antichrist were taught as deceptions. Without a
tribulation ahead, there is no need to be vigilant, discerning or watchful. With no
apostasy, there is no need to look for deception, only blessing. The desire for heavenly
things has faded out, and Restorationist Christians no longer "look up". They
look around them and consider how to transform the world and rule over it. When Christ
comes back they will hand over a Christian earth.
"In all revolutions there are noisy and dangerous times as THE OLD
ORDER Is replaced by the now ... after the dust settles. WE CAN PROCEED TO BUILD the
beautiful kingdom that the Lord has purposed from the foundations of the World" -
Vinson Synan, one of the leaders of A.D. 2000 (FULNESS, Jan - Feb. 1990. Vinson Synan. p.
24.)
Many believe Israel was replaced by the Church in prophecy despite it brought back into
its land and the city of Jerusalem reclaimed in 1967. The focus of attention became the
earth, rather than the eternal heavenly kingdom. The blessings of God are now, instead of
rewards later. The nations and all people are to be Christianized. Taking the nations for
God will be accomplished by becoming an army fighting a war against spiritual hosts of
wickedness and driving them out of the land. With our newly discovered powers that are
taught by the new leaders (apostles and prophets)we can now bind and loose the wicked ones and punish evil.
Ern Baxter said in 1975:.We
have individual salvation - but in the nation we have corporate salvation...God’s
people are going to start to exercise rule and they’re going to take dominion over
the power of Satan. As the rod of his strength goes out of Zion, he will change
legislation, he will chase the devil off the face of God’s earth and God’s
people will bring about God’s purposes and God’s reign. (MacPherson "Can
The Elect Be Deceived" 1986)
Deliverance is now throughout cities and nations as well as Christians. Despite there
is no example or teaching that a Christian can be so inhabited some of the best selling
books are all about this.(oppression is not the same as possession) Through their
teaching, demonization in Christians was also birthed and deliverance ministries
through exorcism by the laying on of hands.
Not all Dominionists, Charismatics and restorationists believe the same things,
especially how it is to be accomplished. Few still believe in a rapture, but there are
many variables. So I'm not addressing all but a certain group that has mainly
been affiliated with the Vineyard and the prophet/apostle movement from Kansas City and
the Latter Rain teachers.
The latter Rain is run on the rail of misinterpreted Scriptures and spiritualizing
their context. Hosea 6:3 tells us the Lord will come as the Latter Rain, and James 5:7
speaks of the Latter Rain, but ties it together with the coming of the Lord. The
"former and latter rain" refers to the agricultural calendar of the land of
Israel although it has a spiritual truth. The latter rain was essential for bountiful crop
harvest in Israel. This corresponds to the giving of the Spirit at Pentecost as Peter
proclaimed this is like that of Joel but was not the ultimate fulfillment. Joel 2:23 also
speaks of a harvest of abundance. But the modern interpreters have given Joel's army new
significance. Joel's army will purge the earth (the cleansing) of all wickedness and
rebellion and even judge the apostate Church (which is those who do not join their
fraternity of miracle workers). They will overcome death itself, they will redeem all
creation, and restore the earth. The Church will inherit the earth, and rule the nations
all before Christ comes back. When he (Jesus) does come we are to hand the kingdom over to
him and he will say job well done, enter into the kingdom. The real Joel's army in Joel 2
does NO miracles and marches strictly through the land of Israel making destruction, there
is no blessing from Joel's army marching. If one reads through about Joel's army they find
that they will be destroyed in the end.
Because Joel's army is called God's army they think that they are his people. they may
be doing Gods will but they certainly are not his Church or saints. In
the same way Cyrus was called Gods shepherd Isa.44:28 he was given all the kingdoms of the
earth Ezra 1:2, 2 chron.36:23, He was called Gods anointed Isa. 45:1"Thus says
the LORD to His anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have held-- to subdue
nations before him and loose the armor of kings, to open before him the double doors,
so that the gates will not be shut." Sounds familiar? Nebuchadnezzar was also called
Gods servant Jer. 43:10"and say to them, 'Thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of
Israel: "Behold, I will send and bring Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, My
servant, and will set his throne above these stones that I have hidden. And he will
spread his royal pavilion over them."One must consider the actions of these men's
teachings in light of what Joel is actually saying. So despite their new interpretation,
the Bibles definition still stands. They may be called Gods army but they are not his
people. Joel's army is the raising up of a devouring army of locusts, (destroyers) to
bring judgement upon the land. Whether its Israel or the church, its not good.
Much of this is being preached from the pulpits big and small without the congregant's
ever blinking. Without being able to identify phrases they don't know what they are
ingesting. Many churches have turned into Latter Rain churches by default or influence,
some knowingly and some not.
Benny Hinn shows his latter Rain ties with "The lord said this , this is where my
people will rise up as an army and bring millions into the kingdom of God." (Benny Hinn Honolulu Blaisdale Jan.21 1999)
Jack Deere states "This army is unique…when this army comes , its large and
mighty. it's so mighty that there has never been anything like it before. Not even when,
Moses not even David, not even Paul . what's going to happen, now will transcend what Paul
did, what David did what Moses did…
Rick Joyner teaches ""What is about to come upon the earth is not just a revival, or another awakening;
it is a veritable revolution. The vision was given in order to begin to awaken
those who are destined to radically change the course, and even the very definition of
Christianity.
The
dismantling of organizations and disbanding of some works will be a positive and
exhilarating experience for the Lord's faithful servants...the Lord will raise up a
great company of prophets, teachers, pastors and apostles that will be of
the spirit of Phinehas ... this "ministry of Phinehas" will save congregations,
and at times, even whole nations. …Nations will tremble at the mention of their
name..."(THE HARVEST, Rick Joyner)
Notice Its not the name of Jesus they will tremble at but THEIR NAME. All this from a
vision to awaken the destined.
So if one does not involve themselves in this then they are not faithful servants. But
our attention should be on the statement of changing the course and definition of
Christianity. What person in all of history has ever said this? Certainly Martin
Luther's contribution was to bring the Church back to its correct doctrine and purpose. Is
this what Joyner and others mean? Certainly not, as we look at the following statements of
explaining what they want it to be like.
"In the near future we will not be looking back at the early church with envy
because of the great exploits of those days, but all will be saying that He certainly did
save the best wine for last. The most glorious times in all of history have not come upon
us. You, who have dreamed of one day being able to talk with Peter, John and Paul, are
going to be surprised to find that they have all been waiting to talk to you." (Rick
Joyner, The Harvest Morning Star, 9, 1990)
This means the apostles were not special in starting the Church and
having divine miracles, we are. Think about the ramifications of this proposal. This means
if the Church began with them and today's Church with its SUPER apostles and prophets will
do greater things. Then the Church really begins all over again.
Nowhere does Scripture teach that the Church will do wonders like
this in the end. Jesus actually WARNED that these signs and wonders at the end are to
DECEIVE THE ELECT.(MT.24) Is anyone paying attention to the Scripture and the time we are
living in?
Mormons are not the only ones who have false modern apostles. John a
true apostle said the Church did. Rev.2:2 "And you have tested those who say they are
apostles and are not, and have found them liars;" Notice John says they have tested
them. Paul said the Church did as well 2 Cor. 11:13 "For such are false apostles,
deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ." Notice Paul says
they transform themselves to look like they do. How? By their teaching, authority and
could very well have had manifestations of power.
" The early church was a firstfruits offering, truly this will be a harvest! It
was said of the Apostle Paul that he was turning the world upside down; it will be said
of the apostles soon to be anointed that they have turned an upside down world right
side up." (Rick Joyner, The Harvest, 128-129) So from what I can gather Joyner says
that they are going to reverse what the Apostle Paul did.
Peter Wagner has recently written a book called the New Apostolic Churches which
explains the new Apostolic Spirit that is raising international leaders. It is from these
Churches that the new Christianity will go forth and be implemented throughout the world.
We are not talking about those who plant churches or are leaders of
movements or denominations, but those who claim Spiritual authority JUST LIKE the
Apostles, by revelations and miracles. This boasting before the facts is a constant theme
throughout these men's writings.
Joseph Smith of the Mormons in May 1844 proclaimed this: "I have
more to boast of than any man ever had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep
a church together since the days of Adam.…Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever
did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I." While the boasting may be for
slightly different reasons essentially, the end result is the same. Some will do what even
the apostles were unable to do.
Jack Deere explains Joel 2 in the context of Ezekiel 9: "When this army comes, He
says it’s large and it’s mighty. It’s so mighty that there’s never
been anything like it before…‘begin the slaughter and begin it in the temple and
begin it with the elders, the leaders of my people.’ And they walk through the land
and they start and they begin to slaughter and you know it’s already started with the
biggest names in His household? He has already started the slaughter…and it is coming
now among the Church."( It Sounds Like the Mother of All Battles, Jack Deere,
VMI, Joel’s Army, 1990, "Joel’s Army")
'' ...this army is totally unique. This
army, there's never been one like it and there
never will be one like it in ages to come. ...Its so mighty that there's
never been
anything like it before. Not even Moses, not even David, not even Paul.
What's going to
happen now will transcend what Paul did, what David did .. what Moses
did, even though
Moses parted the Red Sea ... there'll be a numerous company. . ,
Revelation hints at this
when it talks about the 144,000 that follow the Lamb wherever He goes
and no one, no one
can harm that 144,000. See, that's a multiple of 12. What's 12? Twelve
is the number of
the Apostles, 12 is Apostolic government. And when you take an important
number in the
Bible and you multiply if, it means you intensify it. So, 12, 000 times
12, 000 = 144,000. That is the ultimate in Apostolic government.
Revelation talks about that. Well, here
Joel is talking about it now in different words, a powerful, a MIGHTY
ARMY with many
Paul's many Moses', many David's." ( VINEYARD MINISTRIES
INTERNATIONAL 1990.)
This is portraying an "elite" special group which is exactly what the
Jehovah's Witnesses teach. The Jehovah's Witnesses claim that they are the 144,000 of
Revelation 7 and 14. Both The JW's And Deere are wrong. The Bible means just what it says
in this instance, they are Jews from the 12 tribes who are evangelists not an army and
certainly not a destructive one as in Joel. This genuine Revival they are waiting for (as
the main participants) is introduced by the sealing of the 144,000 Jewish Evangelists.
Those who respond to their message will literally lose their head over it.
Terry Virgo, in "Restoration in the Church" says this is about God visiting
the Church! It is treated as the coming of the GLORY of Christ, in the Latter Rain
visitation, not the physical coming. And "the result of that visitation is that the
poor misguided flock is UNITED and transformed into a majestic war-horse - a great vehicle
of power and energy, a fearsome, awe-inspiring, effective tool of WAR. The sheep become
"mighty men treading down the enemy in battle" … and the flock is
TRANSFORMED CORPORATELY (they become the Corporate Christ).
As Jewel Grewe so clearly put it," The MANIFESTED SONS believe they are
establishing a new and glorious Kingdom - led by a NEW BREED of men of women. The
"Joel's Army" now individually manifest as Sons of God. would be revealed to the
world as many "saviours" who would take dominion and execute judgment."
Jack Deere speak of an invincible army. He says, "...they won't be able to kill
this army." John Wimber also stated, "those in this army will have the 'kind of
anointing ... his kind of power ... anyone who wants to harm them must die".
Paul Cain says that out of this unity will come an army, Joel's Army, based on Joel 2:
"I told you about ... this recurring [35 year-old] vision I had.... The angel of the
Lord said, 'You're standing at the crossroads of life. What do you see?' And I saw a
brilliantly lit billboard which reads, 'Joel's Army now in training.' . . . .I believe one
day soon Joel's Army will be in training ... until it graduates into the stadium .... But
a right understanding of the plan of God for this generation brings this tremendous
inclusion.... God's offering to you, this present generation, a greater privilege than was
ever offered any generation at any time from Adam clear down through the millennium."
"I had a vision of you people coming from . . . a circle of maybe a hundred miles
and I saw people coming from every major city within that circumference and a great
conclave was taking place, and it was the training of Joel's Army. . . . I believe that
people are going to come together by the thousands and train for the Army of the Lord.
Wouldn't that be wonderful? I mean, that's long overdue." (Grace Ministries
tape)
Paul Cain has prophesied a day when sporting events throughout the world will be
cancelled because the stadiums will be used for revival meetings. He says the Lord gave
him this vision around the late fifties or early sixties ,and it his been repeated more
than 100 times since then. This spectacular happening will see millions brought to Christ
in a short period of time.
"I had a dream that became a recurring dream, and it was about all the stadiums -
and we've told this hundreds and hundreds of time all across America, all over the world,
in fact - and I saw these stadiums and football fields, soccer fields and sports arenas,
all of them filled with thousands of people, sometimes over 100,000 in each place"
(Christ Chapel, August 30, 1995). This is much more than what we have seen from Promise
Keepers, in fact we may be only seeing the first of these gatherings .
I don't think everyone is in the same way involved but the statements seem uncannily
the same. Coach McCartney wants unity and every church involved.
In a Promise Keepers gathering in the Detroit Silver Dome stadium in April 1995,
founder Bill McCartney, speaks of a great army like Cain and others, "We have a great
army that we are assembling. They're the Christian men of this nation. However, our
leadership, our clergy are not uniform. Our clergy are divided. . . . There's no unity of
command. . . …We have to assume that responsibility. We have to say, 'Are we
impacting our clergy in a way that's going to take them and make them all that they have
to be in order to lead this army?' Because the shepherds are the ones God's chosen
to lead us out of here" (Promise Keepers Meeting, April 29, 1995, Detroit Silver
Dome).
The last time I read the Scripture it was Jesus who was the captain of the Lords army,
and he was in charge then, as he is now in the Church. Who will be the leaders or leader
of this Church army? We have no appointed Generals except self appointed ones today.God
has made local church's as part of the universal Church, each is autonomous. None answer
to a leadership that controls them all since they are to be called men in the pastorate
listening to Gods direction for their communities as well as in the world.
'Why wouldn't you want to be a part of what God wants to do with His hand-picked
leaders?' . . . I think Almighty God is going to rip open the hearts of our leaders. I
think He's going to tear them open. And I think he's going to put them back together again
as one. One leadership. We've got to have one leadership, one leadership only.
We've got to have everybody hitting on all cylinders. There's only one race. It's the
human race. There's only one culture. Its Christ before culture. Christ culture -
that's all that there is." (Promise Keepers Meeting, April 29, 1995, Detroit
Silver Dome).
Scripture verse for this? NONE
The bible says no such thing, it says the opposite. And it becomes a dangerous
precedent when a few control the many, church or not! Jesus said the field is the
world. The wheat and tares grow up together. And we had better be able to distinguish the
difference in our day. This concept of unity was tried by the Catholic Church to integrate
religion with the state and politics. And it became the downfall of a Church that was kept
pure by persecution. We may yet see the "holy wars" like the early Holy Roman
Empire revived to try and produce what only Christ can as the Prince of Peace.
Rick Joyner who seems to be a main promoter of an end time army wrote from his
visions about "a bloody civil war" in the Church. (Latter Rain Revival,
1996) that the blues and the grays in his end-time war scenario in the church is that just
likened to the American Civil war. He
interprets this with "In dreams and visions blue often represents heavenly-mindedness
– the sky is blue - and gray speaks of those who live by the power of their own minds
– the brain is often called gray matter - This will be a conflict between those who
may be genuine Christians, but who live mostly according to their natural minds and
human wisdom, and those who follow the Holy Spirit." (Morningstar Prophetic
Bulletin, 5/96 )
Spoken like a true Gnostic. First he has a dream of prophecy that is not biblical, then
he himself interprets the meaning by the colors from dreams, which are from the view of
his human understanding.
Joyner says, "I do not believe that this [prophecy] can now be stopped, or that
the Lord wants it stopped" The main reason for the spiritual civil war is over the
institution of spiritual slavery and " to drive the accuser out of the church, and
for the church then to come into a unity that would otherwise be impossible."
descriptions like 'this is the church's greatest victory, her finest hour, triumphantly
marching, empowered for victory' are commonplace for those who want to assert Gods kingdom
on earth now. But by this method the are exhibiting a master to slave relationship which
operates on power. This is not the servitude that Christ said would be found in his
followers.
Joyner contradicts himself by saying "Criticism is one of the ultimate
manifestations of pride because, whenever we criticize someone else we are by that
assuming that we are superior to them, Pride brings that which any rational human being
should fear the most - God's resistance. We would be better off having all of the demons
in hell resisting us than God!" (Epic Battles of The Last Days,
p.23, Rick Joyner) That's exactly what Joel's army ends up to be,
resisted by God and destroyed.
What I see in Joyner's writings is much criticism of the Church, but it is disguised as
dreams and visions from the Lord for guidance. All one has to do is read his
writings and it won't be long before they see certain Christians demonized in
graphic detail. To be rational one must use their mind, something of which he has already
drawn a line in the sand on his own imaginary battlefield as the enemy. As he has accused
the brethren of not being spiritual, even to the point of identifying the
"Antichrist" as the orthodox church. (Weighed and Found Wanting, Bill Randles,
p. 64.) As far as I'm concerned, criticism does not have to be severe, it can be
advantageous to ones growth if it presents the truth and is done with right motive's.
May we have the full armor of God on as Joel's army begins to march and challenges the
historic view of Christianity. Yes, there just may be a civil war, but it certainly would
not be necessary if those who aggressively want to change the Church and the world by
power would get back to the literal interpretation of the Scriptures for its guidance, and
let God be God.