NAR - "Then New Apostolic Reformation" founded by C. Peter Wagner - Exposed in SE PA - Greater Reading & Lancaster, PA
by Bob Brunette on Friday, October 14, 2011 at 11:04am
The Lord gave me a dream Friday 10/14/11 (10:45am). (As I write this message I can hear loud claps of thunder and lightning)
THE LORD DIRECTED ME TO EXPOSE NAR – “The New Apostolic Reformation” founded by C. Peter Wagner and the Kansas City Prophets/Apostles movement to include IHOP “International House of Prayer”
“But what I am doing I will continue to do, so that I may cut off opportunity from those who desire an opportunity to be regarded just as we are in the matter about which they are boasting. 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. 14 No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds.” ~ 2nd Corinthians 11:12-15
The Lord very rarely speaks to me in a dream with such force of conviction. But did today this dream was especially vivid with both urgency and conviction, in fact the dream had awakened me from a sound sleep. Not on my behalf but for the anger He holds against those who purport to represent Christ, when in fact they are causing His Precious and Beloved sheep to go astray in a Day of Great Judgment! The Lord has exhausted His patience with these false prophets who call themselves apostles, prophets, evangelists, teachers and pastors.
“Woe to the rebellious children,” declares the LORD, “Who execute a plan, but not Mine, And make an alliance, but not of My Spirit, In order to add sin to sin” ~ Isaiah 30:1
For the Lord is going to be raining down His Righteous Judgments upon these leaders to the end that there will not be one stone left upon another in the self-righteous of their celebrated ministries because of His great fury, by those who consider themselves to be the Lord’s ministers while taking upon themselves the Glory that is the Lord’s and the Lord’s Alone! Jesus actually meant what He said, when He stated it would be better for a milestone to be strung around a man’s neck and thrown into the sea rather than to cause one of His sheep to stumble in their faith!
We are going to begin seeing so-called spiritual leaders from all sections of U.S. Evangelical Christianity to crash and burn, because they will not be able to withstand the Lord’s Jealousy and His subsequent raining Judgments that will come upon them. Judgment does in fact begin with the House of God! That will result in the utter demise of these self conceived and celebrated kingdoms, that will be found resisting the Lord’s Will being done!
“In the dream the Lord showed me a meeting that a local Reading, PA pastor (Dove Fellowship ministry) had organized in the region. It was an impromptu type of a meeting. And I was present there along with about 15 – 20 pastors/leaders. And suddenly the spirit of the Lord rose up in my spirit with an anger that was clearly not mine, but the Lords. All because the Lord had simply had enough of the deception that was going on in His Name amidst His Precious and Beloved flock. Most but not all of these pastors & leaders were completely blinded by the seriousness of the impact that this deceptive NAR ministry was having. And the reason for their blindness was spiritual pride and hardened hearts who had come to resist the very Spirit of Grace. And because of their blindness would continue to lead His Flock astray.This group of pastors were completely unaware of how His precious the Lord's Flock means to Him. And the impact that they would have to endure from being seduced into gross spiritual error and subsequently mislead. And unless otherwise alerted would have to bear the inevitable consequences of being mislead in the form of the soon to break forthcoming judgments. And all because of these false apostles, prophets, teachers and pastors who were leading the Master's Sheep astray.
In the midst of the meeting that was being led by this pastor (or pseudo-apostle), the Lord out of the clear blue began showing me the sin that was already prevalent in not all but many of these so-called pastors leaders and I could feel the anger of the Lord burning in my physical being. I remember attempting to shrug off the conviction that was coming upon me for fear of what would result in the form of consequences that I would have to bear, for being so outspoken. But the Lord clearly spoke to me “Was I going to be more concerned for myself or the scattering of His Precious Flock”, for which I chose to listen to His Voice, irrespective of the consequences. And then the Spirit of the Lord rose above my fears and then I distinctly remember just as this Reading, PA Dove ministry pastor was about to lead the gathering in a direction that he thought it should go, the anger of the Lord gripped me and I could no longer bear to sit idly by, for then I would have actually been a participant in their sin, by omission - more concerned about the fear of men rather than the Fear of the Lord!
So I stood up in the meeting, and I began to tell them outright that NAR - The New Apostolic Reformation founded by C. Peter Wagner was a ploy and deception that was conceived right from the pit of hell! I began to warn all those in attendance to be keenly aware of this and to repent of the deception and the alluring doctrines that NAR ascribed to. 1st Timothy 4:1 “For the Spirit expressly says that in the last days many will depart from the faith giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils”.
And to especially warn those who were unaware of the danger that came along with any way association that they might involve themselves with in this movement, not to mention the impact that would be experienced by their respective flock by mere association. For in so doing would expose their flocks to this ever so subtle but frontal and demonic… attack against the Lord’s flock. Reminding them that the Lord was completely aware of just what exactly was going on behind closed doors not only in their personal lives but so too in their congregational meetings. To include naming names with great boldness: Kansas City Prophets and Apostles & IHOP “International House of Prayer”– C. Peter Wagner, Mike Bickle, Bill Johnson, Lou Engle, Chuck Pierce, John Arnott, Rick Joyner etc. More closer to home the Lord directed me to expose the fact that Larry Kreider of Dove Fellowship International DFI is intimately associated with NAR, in fact Larry Kreider is one of NAR’s chief elders and therefore all of those who are affiliated with Dove Fellowship International ministry or Dove affiliated congregations are also considered to be equally libel to these judgments. Larry Kreider is one of the prime perpetrators of this deception, because of his leadership role in the Southeastern PA region and additionally libel for the spiritual damage that he has already inflicted in addition to the spiritual damage that he continues to foster in this Southeastern PA region.
The Lord has conveyed to me that these so-called ministers are going to start dropping like flies, because they exalted themselves in ministry rather than the Lord and thereby permitted the sin of spiritual pride rather than the Righteousness of Christ to rise in their ministries a Righteousness that can only come from the Preaching of the Cross of Christ and His Cross Alone as being pre-imminent in their ministries. It’s a building that has already been set afire… by the Lord Himself! And in His present Judgments the Lord in His unwarranted Mercies is now warning those who are involved to flee... before the house completely burns to ashes.
It’s His desire that none should have to bear His Judgments but rather to flee from them while they can and give back the Glory that is due the Lord and the Lord alone. And Now is the time to flee!
But the Lord knows full well there will be many who in the stubbornness of their own hearts will dig their heels into the ground and not relent from their deceptive ways and will have to bear the consequences of their rebellious hearts. The Lord also showed me that many who are more concerned with outward empty expressions of Evangelical Christianity rather than circumcision of their hearts will bear the consequences of continuing to believe that they are justified in their wayward paths and will prefer believing a lie rather than the cutting truth… "For the prophets (pastors) prophecy (preach) falsely and the priests/ministers rule on their own authority, and My people love it so; but what will you do at the end of it?" ~ Jeremiah 5:31 Even in a Day of Great Judgments believing right to be wrong and wrong to be right, and in so doing will have done nothing more than heaped upon themselves and their following the judgments that are at this very moment sitting in the offing about to be unleashed. All because of believing themselves to be justified in their own ministries rather than in the Lord’s ministry. Only then to discover themselves challenging the Chief Shepherd and the Chief Apostle, Whom they are supposedly representing!
When in fact their hardened hearts will have done nothing more than paved their paths to bearing this judgment on their own outside of the Lord’s reach all due to their own stubbornness and rebellion! This is very serious much more so than most are able to presently recognize, but in due time will readily recognize. For the Righteous Judgments that have already begun to fall, judgments that will only increase in intensity with the simple passing of time are far beyond these misleading ministers minds to imagine… for the Hour in which we presently live is extremely serious, for the time of the Lord’s Return is in fact at hand!
With any additional questions or additional information. I have an abundance of additional corroborated and document material available - please contact me at tbloodt@gmail.com - In His Mercy, Bob Brunette
THE LORD DIRECTED ME TO EXPOSE NAR – “The New Apostolic Reformation” founded by C. Peter Wagner and the Kansas City Prophets/Apostles movement to include IHOP “International House of Prayer”
“But what I am doing I will continue to do, so that I may cut off opportunity from those who desire an opportunity to be regarded just as we are in the matter about which they are boasting. 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. 14 No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds.” ~ 2nd Corinthians 11:12-15
The Lord very rarely speaks to me in a dream with such force of conviction. But did today this dream was especially vivid with both urgency and conviction, in fact the dream had awakened me from a sound sleep. Not on my behalf but for the anger He holds against those who purport to represent Christ, when in fact they are causing His Precious and Beloved sheep to go astray in a Day of Great Judgment! The Lord has exhausted His patience with these false prophets who call themselves apostles, prophets, evangelists, teachers and pastors.
“Woe to the rebellious children,” declares the LORD, “Who execute a plan, but not Mine, And make an alliance, but not of My Spirit, In order to add sin to sin” ~ Isaiah 30:1
For the Lord is going to be raining down His Righteous Judgments upon these leaders to the end that there will not be one stone left upon another in the self-righteous of their celebrated ministries because of His great fury, by those who consider themselves to be the Lord’s ministers while taking upon themselves the Glory that is the Lord’s and the Lord’s Alone! Jesus actually meant what He said, when He stated it would be better for a milestone to be strung around a man’s neck and thrown into the sea rather than to cause one of His sheep to stumble in their faith!
We are going to begin seeing so-called spiritual leaders from all sections of U.S. Evangelical Christianity to crash and burn, because they will not be able to withstand the Lord’s Jealousy and His subsequent raining Judgments that will come upon them. Judgment does in fact begin with the House of God! That will result in the utter demise of these self conceived and celebrated kingdoms, that will be found resisting the Lord’s Will being done!
“In the dream the Lord showed me a meeting that a local Reading, PA pastor (Dove Fellowship ministry) had organized in the region. It was an impromptu type of a meeting. And I was present there along with about 15 – 20 pastors/leaders. And suddenly the spirit of the Lord rose up in my spirit with an anger that was clearly not mine, but the Lords. All because the Lord had simply had enough of the deception that was going on in His Name amidst His Precious and Beloved flock. Most but not all of these pastors & leaders were completely blinded by the seriousness of the impact that this deceptive NAR ministry was having. And the reason for their blindness was spiritual pride and hardened hearts who had come to resist the very Spirit of Grace. And because of their blindness would continue to lead His Flock astray.This group of pastors were completely unaware of how His precious the Lord's Flock means to Him. And the impact that they would have to endure from being seduced into gross spiritual error and subsequently mislead. And unless otherwise alerted would have to bear the inevitable consequences of being mislead in the form of the soon to break forthcoming judgments. And all because of these false apostles, prophets, teachers and pastors who were leading the Master's Sheep astray.
In the midst of the meeting that was being led by this pastor (or pseudo-apostle), the Lord out of the clear blue began showing me the sin that was already prevalent in not all but many of these so-called pastors leaders and I could feel the anger of the Lord burning in my physical being. I remember attempting to shrug off the conviction that was coming upon me for fear of what would result in the form of consequences that I would have to bear, for being so outspoken. But the Lord clearly spoke to me “Was I going to be more concerned for myself or the scattering of His Precious Flock”, for which I chose to listen to His Voice, irrespective of the consequences. And then the Spirit of the Lord rose above my fears and then I distinctly remember just as this Reading, PA Dove ministry pastor was about to lead the gathering in a direction that he thought it should go, the anger of the Lord gripped me and I could no longer bear to sit idly by, for then I would have actually been a participant in their sin, by omission - more concerned about the fear of men rather than the Fear of the Lord!
So I stood up in the meeting, and I began to tell them outright that NAR - The New Apostolic Reformation founded by C. Peter Wagner was a ploy and deception that was conceived right from the pit of hell! I began to warn all those in attendance to be keenly aware of this and to repent of the deception and the alluring doctrines that NAR ascribed to. 1st Timothy 4:1 “For the Spirit expressly says that in the last days many will depart from the faith giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils”.
And to especially warn those who were unaware of the danger that came along with any way association that they might involve themselves with in this movement, not to mention the impact that would be experienced by their respective flock by mere association. For in so doing would expose their flocks to this ever so subtle but frontal and demonic… attack against the Lord’s flock. Reminding them that the Lord was completely aware of just what exactly was going on behind closed doors not only in their personal lives but so too in their congregational meetings. To include naming names with great boldness: Kansas City Prophets and Apostles & IHOP “International House of Prayer”– C. Peter Wagner, Mike Bickle, Bill Johnson, Lou Engle, Chuck Pierce, John Arnott, Rick Joyner etc. More closer to home the Lord directed me to expose the fact that Larry Kreider of Dove Fellowship International DFI is intimately associated with NAR, in fact Larry Kreider is one of NAR’s chief elders and therefore all of those who are affiliated with Dove Fellowship International ministry or Dove affiliated congregations are also considered to be equally libel to these judgments. Larry Kreider is one of the prime perpetrators of this deception, because of his leadership role in the Southeastern PA region and additionally libel for the spiritual damage that he has already inflicted in addition to the spiritual damage that he continues to foster in this Southeastern PA region.
The Lord has conveyed to me that these so-called ministers are going to start dropping like flies, because they exalted themselves in ministry rather than the Lord and thereby permitted the sin of spiritual pride rather than the Righteousness of Christ to rise in their ministries a Righteousness that can only come from the Preaching of the Cross of Christ and His Cross Alone as being pre-imminent in their ministries. It’s a building that has already been set afire… by the Lord Himself! And in His present Judgments the Lord in His unwarranted Mercies is now warning those who are involved to flee... before the house completely burns to ashes.
It’s His desire that none should have to bear His Judgments but rather to flee from them while they can and give back the Glory that is due the Lord and the Lord alone. And Now is the time to flee!
But the Lord knows full well there will be many who in the stubbornness of their own hearts will dig their heels into the ground and not relent from their deceptive ways and will have to bear the consequences of their rebellious hearts. The Lord also showed me that many who are more concerned with outward empty expressions of Evangelical Christianity rather than circumcision of their hearts will bear the consequences of continuing to believe that they are justified in their wayward paths and will prefer believing a lie rather than the cutting truth… "For the prophets (pastors) prophecy (preach) falsely and the priests/ministers rule on their own authority, and My people love it so; but what will you do at the end of it?" ~ Jeremiah 5:31 Even in a Day of Great Judgments believing right to be wrong and wrong to be right, and in so doing will have done nothing more than heaped upon themselves and their following the judgments that are at this very moment sitting in the offing about to be unleashed. All because of believing themselves to be justified in their own ministries rather than in the Lord’s ministry. Only then to discover themselves challenging the Chief Shepherd and the Chief Apostle, Whom they are supposedly representing!
When in fact their hardened hearts will have done nothing more than paved their paths to bearing this judgment on their own outside of the Lord’s reach all due to their own stubbornness and rebellion! This is very serious much more so than most are able to presently recognize, but in due time will readily recognize. For the Righteous Judgments that have already begun to fall, judgments that will only increase in intensity with the simple passing of time are far beyond these misleading ministers minds to imagine… for the Hour in which we presently live is extremely serious, for the time of the Lord’s Return is in fact at hand!
With any additional questions or additional information. I have an abundance of additional corroborated and document material available - please contact me at tbloodt@gmail.com - In His Mercy, Bob Brunette
